smelly sock wrote: » Pimp keeping an eye on things is about the only thing that adds up.
noodler wrote: » I just listened to the sister's podcast. It's pretty clear she is talking about boards (or Reddit). One falsehood that keeps coming up on here that she corrected: he didn't come home from Alaska a couple of days prior to going missing - it was weeks.
20Wheel wrote: » Whatever I say you're just going to say the opposite. Mods can cut the charades and just wrap it up for all I care. Good while it lasted. Nothing new coming to light. Forward my cheque. You're welcome.
noodler wrote: » But he's facing the camera in the shots with the pree people at the gate?
smelly sock wrote: » FFS. Here we go now. The behind man. Like a dog outside a supermarket. This thread is going to start progressing like the last one with this ****e.
TwoMonthsOff wrote: » It's a very odd place to find yourself hanging around at 4am on a rainy night. Theres literally no excuse for hanging around on that street at that hour unless you're up to no good.
STB. wrote: » @ Fr Tod. Well I have followed the criminal angle (low level dealers more like). It was first presented in the press in 2017. The person who supposedly was helping AGS was ID'd on that famous crime photographer's twitter page - a post that exists still. If you follow those articles and how they were described at the time you are left with 2 or 3 possible crime families. 2 from Rutland Grove, 1 of which went on to be a crew member of a now notorious and third Crumlin based family. Proof though is always the problem, as is the reliability of the sources. Many have died as a result of addiction or gangland. The guards seemed pretty convinced to dig up Chapelizod not so long ago. I think suicide can be ruled out due to the umbrella. Most likely it was wrong place, wrong time.
20Wheel wrote: » No. He got caught by the bollox by the work colleagues. Wasn't expecting them at all. Just like he got caught by the bollox when TD stopped to call on his phone. And the plonker had to keep walking, so knowing that TD was an employee of the Bank he walked down the lane. Where he proceeded to get caught on CCTV again. He could have put 2+2 together and kept walking down wilton. Where TD would follow in a bit. But he wasn't supposed to lose track of TD, as the behind man. So instead he ended up with his mug on camera, gawking after his target like a dog outside a supermarket. Or maybe he was just gawking through that gate for inspiration.
Lina Limited Workaholic wrote: » Is it still the same the gates and still base of BOI? Thought I read it had changed
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » That is not obvious We have no idea that the reason MIB was at BOIAM was because he was watching or following Trevor. MIB also talked to his colleagues, was he watching them ? And AGS are not convinced that MIB is also on Haddington Rd In in one statement they said they were "satisfied" but a few days later on RTE a AGS spokesperson said they were not sure
Peter Flynt wrote: » It is the case that before Trevor arrived at Wilton Terrace that the MIB at Wilton Terrace proceeded to take a phone call, then engage Trevor in conversation after moving to talk to him. As he did so he seemed to be aware of BoI cameras as he kept his back to the cameras. All of this after waiting for 30+ minutes in the rain on a terrible night re the weather. My understanding is that AGS believe this is the same person who followed him on HR. "Gardaí said they believed this was the same man from earlier"https://www.thejournal.ie/trevor-deely-timeline-3544950-Aug2017/
smelly sock wrote: » The youtubers like Leroy Bluffins are spoofers of the highest order. The amount of posters in the previous thread giving them creedance was embarassing.
RollieFingers wrote: » Clearly the MIB is the key in all this. If the guy waiting at the the gate and then the guy following TD in the final piece of footage are the same person then you would have to say he was involved in some way, it's way way too coincidental otherwise.I walk by that bank building every day, if MIB is not involved at all I'd love to know what he was doing that night standing there for that long. It's not anyway sheltered, and if he's simply asking for change/smokes you would think he'd have been better off on Leeson Street or up towards the Green. He wasn't there by accident I don't think. That stare he gives when looking in the gates is odd too. It's definitely a possibility that TD's disappearance was caused by a criminal element, but definitely wouldn't rule out the possibility of ending up in water accidentally or whatever either, although as pointed out above that scenario does become less likely upon hearing his family gave DNA samples to be cross checked with bodies found.
KWAG2019 wrote: » Thread has largely regulated itself. I have to believe they have an idea.
smelly sock wrote: » Dont be snarky now. What i think happend changes from time to to time based on re reading the evidence. There was an article from a few years ago which suggest Trevor was murdered in a house by a well known criminal. That to me is plausible. Why they would target him and an MIB follow him isnt plausible. No motive whatsoever for a premeditated crime. Why would anyone wait in the rain like that to mug someone when there is hundreds of way easier targets to victimise. Trevor was a big guy also so by no means a soft target. I think Trevor had a run in with a gang controlling street crime in the area. I believe he by his own accord ended up in a property in the locality. I just cant see how it would be in any way premeditated.
wyrn wrote: » I have to say the theories in this thread have nothing on the previous one (thank goodness). I won't repeat what conspiracies were out there but it seems that the theories are being narrowed down over time. I wonder if AGS have a theory as to who the MIB is. If he is connect to a criminal gang, surely they would have an idea who that was.
Peter Flynt wrote: » There is a lot of that going on because there are unusual events. The Alaska event is a total red herring which yields nothing. It's just an unusual place for anyone to go leading up to the events which happened. The only reason why people speculate on Alaska is because it was so close to the time Trevor Deely went missing. Likewise with the Bank stuff. He was a young man who was very junior doing very straightforward but important tasks. Not unusual as he was on the first rung of the ladder of his career. Walton Terrace in the year 2000 was no Gordon Gekko style Wall Street building. What is of interest though is obviously the fact that he was he was being monitored by dodgy looking characters who were watching & following him. This, and the fact that AGS were searching Chapelizod a couple of years ago, lends itself to the idea that Trevor became a victim of criminals operating in the area and there was no accident (like drowning). Yet there is zero evidence for believing that Trevor had any links with these people as his behaviour was completely normal after he left BWs to go to his place of employment. It does seem that he was targeted for a reason he probably never knew but might have become apparent afterwards. It's probable that there are one or more witnesses (or others with info) to what happened to Trevor who, for a variety of reasons (mainly fear of reprisal), have never come forward. AGS and the Deely family seem, I suspect, to believe this and each year they reach out in hope that others can consider their thoughts and come forward.
Muahahaha wrote: » Plus these Youtubers doing true crime are mainly American and broadcasting to an American audience. So the guy in the Cold Case video pushes the Alaska angle as he knows it will help get more clicks from an American audience. Funny thing is though he has clearly read the Irish Times 3 part series because he quotes from it a few times. Which means he has read there that the Alaska angle was completely ruled out by both the Gardai and TDs family as a red herring. But that still doesnt stop him specualting on it because more clicks=more money for him. Nor does it stop him speculating that TD was a financial and computer whizz and therefore leaning towards bank fraud when we all know that TD was an IT junior just updating servers and databases. It is disingenious and cyncial reporting but they knowingly do it because they need to sell a type of story to excite their audience and the wilder the theory the better as far as they're concerned.
20Wheel wrote: » Mate in a car. If there was a body, it wasn't found on the street. Canal was locked up. A convenient house at just the right place would be a very unlikely coincidence. A car or maybe even a skip could hide a crime. Or maybe he just disappeared like David blaine.
smelly sock wrote: » Im going on the info available stb. Thats all. To me a well known criminal involved with a well know gang isnt a street level thug. Its subjective i suppose.
smelly sock wrote: » Fair enough. But vanishing a body and almost every trace of evidence like that? Would someone on Heroin or going through withdrawals have the capacity to do that? Would they bother? Maybe they just got very lucky.
smelly sock wrote: » You'd also have to assume that if MIB was a well known criminal figure he's not gna stand in view of cctv for that long. He's not gna be persist with TD after conversing with his two work colleagues. Just again more anamolies there.
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