chalkitdown1 wrote: » Umm... surely it's not the road's closure that's freeing up the traffic, rather the entire centre itself? If that road re-opened but the shopping centre didn't, I imagine the traffic would improve even further.
dulpit wrote: » Just because you think you're a good driver doesn't necessarily mean you are. Similarly, just because you don't have points/etc it still doesn't mean you have top skills. In a sense, it's a bit weird that you can drive a car with 1 test that you might take at 17/18 years of age, and then you're never tested again.
lawrencesummers wrote: » I never said I was a good driver, but I’ve a clean driving record which means I’m not a bad driver. Feel free to have bad drivers redo their tests, but when someone is a consistent safe driver over a long period of time your only going to retest people who don’t need it and clog up a system that can’t cope as it is. You can apply your same bullsht theory to any professional, a doctor becomes a doctor after one test, why not retest them? Or a Garda, or a pilot, or a teacher. Why not make driving instructors Retake their tests as well. Did you even think about what you said?
dulpit wrote: » Touched a nerve did I? Don't most professions have CPD anyway?
kub wrote: » It is amazing how freely the traffic is moving now in the village with it closed.
lawrencesummers wrote: » No they shouldn’t. I’ve driven for over twenty years and never had an accident, never a penalty point, never stopped but the guards and always passed my NCT first time. I keep a safe car on the road and drive safely. Never driven a car after any alcohol regardless what the limit ever was, so no I don’t need to be tested again thanks. Feel free to advocate for people who get a certain amount of penalty points to have a retest, or people who are caught speeding, breaking the rules etc etc, but there are plenty of safe drivers out there.
Acosta wrote: » In 15 years of driving I've also never had an accident, points, been pulled by the guards or failed an NCT, but so what? That doesn't mean you can't pick up bad habits. Most of the bad driving I see on a daily basis isn't something that's going to get you pulled over, it's bad driving practice. Drivers not looking in mirrors or being aware of what's happening around them, which is probably what causes most of the crashes on the road we are currently discussing on this thread. Or other things like not indicating or not indicating properly, not progressing fast enough onto major roads from minor roads causing other drivers to slam on brakes etc etc. I'm not suggesting everyone re-take the test, I never said that. That should be reserved for drivers who have caused bad accidents. It's an assessment which you should have no problem getting through if you're a decent driver.
Acosta wrote: » After driving for 20 years everyone should have to do a assessment and following that do the same everytime you need your licence renewed. I have to do it at work every 5 years and it's a good thing. Helps get rid of bad habbits. The RSA should look at something like that if only they could drag themselves away from blaming all the problems on the road on young people. There's way too much cars on the road and far too many awful drivers.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Never driven a car after any alcohol regardless what the limit ever was,.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Right there... you’ve also lost 5 years of driving in the last couple of hours.
the beer revolu wrote: » The only way that that statement could be true is if you never drink alcohol or you never drive. Time is always a factor - as in how long you leave after drinking alcohol before driving be that 8 hours, 12, 24, whatever. How long would you leave after consuming, say, 8 standard drinks (4 pints of lager/stout) before driving?
hans aus dtschl wrote: » We're way off topic here, but I don't see why we aren't put through a simulator test every few years at least. The full test might be overkill and be bad for waiting times but surely a simulator test would be good. And if you failed it, you then re-do the main test. Some people I know - particularly as they get to their senior years - are appalling drivers now, but weren't before. Some have never been tested on motorways or roundabouts. I can't think of a good reason not to WANT continuous re-testing. Whatever about not having the resources to do it.
lawrencesummers wrote: » No it’s not, and you went on to explain to yourself why.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Did you even think this through before you posted it? If I have to sit in a simulator and pass or fail then that means I’m either good or bad at computer games. Your advocating retesting perfectly good drivers and putting more pressure on a overloaded system as it is. Great idea Einstein.
Gru wrote: » In the case of Douglas I sincerely hope the council or someone else can build the screen to stop people gawping at the shopping centre and village. Nothing else will work.
the beer revolu wrote: » Yes it is, and no I didn't. However, I don't think I'' be able to make you understand this. I will ask this question again, though. How long would you leave after consuming, say, 8 standard drinks (4 pints of lager/stout) before driving?
Gru wrote: » Changing behaviour through penalty is probably the only way to effect change. Having people re-sit the test wont do much. People always rubber neck, be it roadworks, road traffic collisions, emergency services etc. Penalising them by having gardaí around is the best way. No one would stick around gawping if the gards were handing out fines and penalty points. In the case of Douglas I sincerely hope the council or someone else can build the screen to stop people gawping at the shopping centre and village. Nothing else will work.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » Lol that's hilarious. What era are you from?
lawrencesummers wrote: » The Bronze Age.
TTTT wrote: » https://twitter.com/BR24/status/1130874291472478208?s=09
grogi wrote: » Unfortunately shocking people won't help in the grand scheme of things: you can't shock them fast enough, idiots are born faster... The solution is and always was to erect temporary barriers - gives the respect to the victims and a reduces dangers for the drivers.
beer enigma wrote: » Hurrah an actual post mentioning the thread topic, id began to think this was a driving forum. I think even a screen will attract attention in itself. I remember years and years ago after they re opened the motorway following the Kegworth air crash, people slowing just to look at the embankment where it happened and they placed a police unit that pulled drivers. After a week or so of high profile policing the motorway went back to normal. Not saying that's the answer here but I presume the demolition will take a fair while
dulpit wrote: » Where could you place the gardai though to safely ensure traffic flows?
beer enigma wrote: » There's a hard shoulder isn't there? Memory blank as I always pull off at Douglas
