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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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Any body with either of these able to advise on what the real world economy is of these?
There is not much between them in purchase price.
The gtd 625 euro more.
I do 25000km a year and really would prefer the gti but my head tells me the gtd is what I should be looking at.
I've only driven the gti and found it very entertaining.
Dealer says resale is the same for both of them. There is only 90 euro difference in road tax and insurance the same so fuel costs are the main financial difference.

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Killinator

hooch-85 wrote: »

If you are just talking about basic servicing, like oil changes, brake pads etc, any competent independent mechanic should be able to do it. Stuff like above, Haldex pumps, DSG oil changes etc. I'd be going to Daltons for the likes of that stuff

Yeah it's more the in depth services, the standard stuff I can actually do myself

hooch-85

If you are just talking about basic servicing, like oil changes, brake pads etc, any competent independent mechanic should be able to do it. Stuff like above, Haldex pumps, DSG oil changes etc. I'd be going to Daltons for the likes of that stuff

Killinator

hooch-85 wrote: »

I'm going to them tomorrow to get some work done and I'm an hour away too, sometimes it's worth travelling.

100%

hooch-85

Killinator wrote: »

Thanks, Was aware of Dalton's and how good they are.
Its still an hour drive for me so was looking for somewhere a bit closer to Carlow/Tullow town

I'm going to them tomorrow to get some work done and I'm an hour away too, sometimes it's worth travelling.

Killinator

hooch-85 wrote: »

Daltons in Portlaoise.

Thanks, Was aware of Dalton's and how good they are.
Its still an hour drive for me so was looking for somewhere a bit closer to Carlow/Tullow town

hooch-85

Daltons in Portlaoise.

Killinator

Where would be a good place to get work/service done on an R in the Carlow area without going to main dealer, does anyone have any suggestions?

tossy

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Haldex oil service is due every 45k kms and DSG box service due every 60k kms.

I wouldn't be letting a haldex go 45k without inspection.

The previous generation haldex cars had a filter that needed to be changed every other oil service. Vw in their wisdom have done away with the filter and replaced it with a gauze (VW/Audi don't have a great history of mixing oil filtration and gauzes lol)

Here is a pic of the gauze on mine after 38k this was it's second haldex oil change

All clean

To be honest for me (i do hefty-ish mileage) the haldex oil change and inspection is now a yearly service item. The good thing is it's actually cheaper to remove clean and change the oil on the new set up than it was for an oil and filter change on old set up.

TFB might clear it up but as far as i know VW aren't acknowledging that the gauze set up isn't the best and i've only heard of one dealer removing the pump to clean the gauze - most just drain and refill. Several reports on the UK forums of haldex failures due to oil starvation.

If it was my car i'd be bringing it to a reputable indy, John Mills in maynooth isn't a million miles away from you and is an R owner himself.

Toyotafanboi

30k kms or 24 months is the longest interval on them. You need to ask for a long life service, otherwise you'll get another 15k/ 12 month interval. The price shouldn't change.

If you were servicing with Keanes, they use long life oil in everything anyway, so if you were feeling brave you could reset the service light and drive on another 15k. The only issue would be your service book (if you even have one? Yours is a 2018?) and digital service history wouldnt match up.

Toyotafanboi

They refer to the rest of the country as County Notdublin

dar83

Proper order. Centre of the Irelaverse.

:pac:

Toyotafanboi

Muppet Man wrote: »

Assuming annual servicing, and 20,000 km's per year, what do I require on my third service for my Golf 7R. Either of the links below seem to suggest brake fluid and haldex oil for the third service, as well as Oil and Filter. Anything else? I'm only asking because the last time I rang Joe Duffy VW for a service, the receptionist asked me "what did I need done...?" which kind of threw me a bit. I thought they would know that themselves :rolleyes:

The closest service interval to your usage is the 15k/ 12 month interval in that case.

What mileage is on the car? As if you are doing in excess of 15k kms a year, mileage dictates more than the time interval or age of car.

Oil change and inspection is due every 15k/ 12 months
Pollen filter every 30k/ 24 months
The first brake fluid is due at 36 months then every 24 months, mileage regardless.
Spark plugs every 60k kms or 48 months
Air filter every 90k kms or 48 months
Haldex oil service is due every 45k kms and DSG box service due every 60k kms.

drunkmonkey

Frederick Yellow Headhunter wrote: »

Would you buy any of the Rs for sale at the minute? I'm limiting myself to the 7.5 for the moment, so 2017+

Have you driven a GTi and tried out a DSG and Manual in both cars? The GTi is a lot more civilised, the R is just bonkers. Reminds me more of a WRX than a Golf.

You do know the new R, GTi and GTE(245bhp) will be here in the next maybe 7mts. Saying that a gaggle of blondes pulled up beside my GTi a few weeks ago asking all about the car, they loved it so it's still got pulling power.

Hard to know which one to pick out of the current batch on sale, I'd want a manual, my mates got a dsg and I much prefer driving mine.

un5byh7sqpd2x0

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The MK8 is confirmed for 2020. Pricing hasn't been. Seems like a lot of money to drop on a late reg when there's a new one around the corner.

Would you buy any of the Rs for sale at the minute? I'm limiting myself to the 7.5 for the moment, so 2017+

Muppet Man

Assuming annual servicing, and 20,000 km's per year, what do I require on my third service for my Golf 7R. Either of the links below seem to suggest brake fluid and haldex oil for the third service, as well as Oil and Filter. Anything else? I'm only asking because the last time I rang Joe Duffy VW for a service, the receptionist asked me "what did I need done...?" which kind of threw me a bit. I thought they would know that themselves :rolleyes:

Anyway, here are two Service Schedule Links for Golf 7R that google found. Might be useful for someone. These are in Miles, and assume 10,000 miles per year
Link 1 (actually, there is a nice list of "How to" videos on that page if doing it yourself is the kind of thing that inflates your tyre.

Consistent information, but more detailed Link 2

Muppet Man

Toyotafanboi

DaveyDave wrote: »

If they want your car they'll get it one way or the other, keyless or not.

Completely agree. If they have eyes on your car, they're going to have a go at it, keyless or not.

It's a great cop out excuse for the salesman in fairness, who forgot to spec keyless on the demo R.

DaveyDave

deceit wrote: »

The big reason for not getting keyless cars is security. They are a lot easier to steal with the keyless option.

I wouldn't be too worried, all you have to do is store it in a safe container. Wouldn't put me off getting keyless. My neighbor has a higher chance of having the cat stolen off his Prius than I would having a gang roll up with a laptop trying to clone a key.

If they want your car they'll get it one way or the other, keyless or not.

Gael23

When will,pricing for the Mk8 be announced?

TheAnalyst_

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

Can’t stand having house keys on my car key, noting attached to mine what so ever.

Having driven rentals etc with keyless I think it’s brilliant and would love it on my own car. So many times trying to open the car with no free hand etc.

I’m the exact same. I would never go back from keyless.

PS. Use Tile with your keys. It’s a lifesaver.

[Deleted User]

DaveyDave wrote: »

Real shame it isn't standard at that price. €400 is very little extra on a car that much. I wonder do people fob it off because they haven't experienced it before or they genuinely don't want to spend €400 for convenience?
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Keyless on a GTi makes it easier to steal. Folk don't like that. Needing the key has it's pitfalls too if someone decides they want your car.... House break in etc

deceit

The big reason for not getting keyless cars is security. They are a lot easier to steal with the keyless option.

tossy

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

Can’t stand having house keys on my car key, noting attached to mine what so ever.

Having driven rentals etc with keyless I think it’s brilliant and would love it on my own car. So many times trying to open the car with no free hand etc.

If I don’t attach the house keys to the car keys I’ll loose both or lock myself out of one

[Deleted User]

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Have to say I went from a mk7 with keyless to a mk7.5 without it and dont miss it at all. Actually it makes finding my house key easier when I get home ( not rummaging around all my pockets looking for it)

Can’t stand having house keys on my car key, noting attached to mine what so ever.

Having driven rentals etc with keyless I think it’s brilliant and would love it on my own car. So many times trying to open the car with no free hand etc.

Toyotafanboi

DaveyDave wrote: »

How would their assistance compare to regular breakdown assistance? Same thing I'd imagine, local tow company sent out to assist?

It's reasonable imo. It's generally sub contracted through the AA or Allianz Assist or local companys down the country. It's 24/7 365, the biggest difference between them and an AA policy is that the VW Assist policy is on the car not the driver. The sub contractors were advised to stay away from puncture repairs for liability reasons so it's interesting to hear one got patched, or that they even had tyre removal equipment in the van.

You're covered for a ridiculous amount of things that most people aren't aware of like 3 days hire car if yours has to be towed away or cost of alternative transport to your destination, hotel costs, even repatriation of pets etc if you break down abroad with Fido. The cover also stays with the car for life, "FOC" once you keep it serviced in the dealer network.

Reckless Abandonment

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Now we know what happened to forty coats lovechild...

drunkmonkey

Now we know what happened to forty coats lovechild...

Reckless Abandonment

Have to say I went from a mk7 with keyless to a mk7.5 without it and dont miss it at all. Actually it makes finding my house key easier when I get home ( not rummaging around all my pockets looking for it)

kmart6

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

They'll fit the spare if you have one or use the inflators kit.

They shouldn't repair the tyre, if the spare or the inflators kit wont work they'll tow you.

They came out and patched it up. Ended up being a screw that was the cause of it.

DaveyDave wrote: »

How would their assistance compare to regular breakdown assistance? Same thing I'd imagine, local tow company sent out to assist?

In my case today, based in South Dublin, it was VW's own breakdown team. From the time I called to the time he got to me was only 43 minutes, pretty impressive. The mechanic was telling me that they have 2 vans that cover Dublin, one South and one North, and they look after VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat.

DaveyDave

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No it's got an ignition barrel in the photos, so you need to put the key in the ignition.

Real shame it isn't standard at that price. €400 is very little extra on a car that much. I wonder do people fob it off because they haven't experienced it before or they genuinely don't want to spend €400 for convenience?

You definitely get you

Hate seeing a GTI or R well specced with leather, upgraded infotainment or sunroof and skimp on the keyless.

Had to fumble a coffee machine and a few bags when driving my mam's car while mine was getting serviced, that's where I'd casually lean into the handle to lock it. Not that time...

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

They'll fit the spare if you have one or use the inflators kit.

They shouldn't repair the tyre, if the spare or the inflators kit wont work they'll tow you.

How would their assistance compare to regular breakdown assistance? Same thing I'd imagine, local tow company sent out to assist?

drunkmonkey

Frederick Yellow Headhunter wrote: »

Yes, pricing is a bit off, I agree. According to the donedeal ad, it has both keyless entry and go so may just be an omission on their own ad.

M2 it is! :pac:

No it's got an ignition barrel in the photos, so you need to put the key in the ignition.