quokula wrote: » While he's been a step up from Gasly, Albon is really not doing anything special. He beats everyone that's not in a RB / Ferrari / Mercedes, and loses to everyone who is. 99% of average drivers will finish in the same place. It's true Max has been in some incidents and lost out here and there, but in the last race for example Verstappen had the speed to compete for the win if Hamilton hadn't hit him, while Albon never looked anywhere near giving the Ferraris or Mercedes any trouble. It's easy to get in fewer accidents when you're not fast enough to be fighting anyone else for position.
Gintonious wrote: » Hmmmm, this is a bit of a "if my aunty had wheels, she'd be a wagon" argument. If Verstappen didn't have this, that or the other happen to him, he would be beating Albon. But, he has been making mistakes and they are costing him. Albon has made his fair share of them as well in Russia and Mexico, where he crashed on the Fridays, yet recovers to get a solid haul of points on the Sunday, where it counts. I am more of a facts person, and the numbers speak for themselves.
Stallingrad wrote: » Albon reminds me of Button, quick, smooth, stays out of trouble. And he's not up his own arse like most of them.
shamrock55 wrote: » Does anyone think if danny ric was in a merc/Ferrari that he would be a world champion and what is his contract with renault and will they even be here in the nxt couple of years
BDI wrote: » Feel sorry for a few drivers that deserved more. Danny Ric, Perez, few over the years I think didn’t reach their full potential just out of not getting a drive they deserved.
Red Bull may have denied that Nico Hulkenberg has a shot at the 2020 race seat but the rumours are refusing to die down.
F1 journalist Jack Plooij told Radio Veronica: “Voices that say Nico Hulkenberg will be the new team-mate for Verstappen next year are a growing.
weisses wrote: » If Ric wanted to possibly reach his full potential he should have stayed with RB instead of going for the cash at Renault So you don't need to feel sorry for the fella
BDI wrote: » He would have been second fiddle to Max who at the time looked like Red Bull would do everything in their power to win him races. Didn’t work out for Max so far but Ricciardo wasn’t to know. Even now Max gets all the coverage albon is treated like an also ran.
weisses wrote: » If you are a driver who runs away from a fight with your teammate then you are not world champion material .. period... he went for the cash at Renault, Red Bull is very much capable of getting 2 equally fast cars on the grid ... let's not forget that they want the constructor championship just as much as a driver championship. Albon is not the driver RB needs... to this date he adds nothing that pushes the team forward ...
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » It’s not true to say he ran away. Red bull made clear they were backing Max politically. That means he gets the best stuff, mechanics and more say over development, pit strategy preference etc. That’s not an equal setup. So if anyone were to be world champion at red bull, it would most likely be max. His next best bet was to go to a constructor. Merc and Ferrari were full, so Renault was the best option. It wasn’t just for the money. It was s as do for the most realistic chance of winning - even though it was also a long shot.
skipper_G wrote: » Albon has finished in the top 6 every race for Red Bull, he's still in his rookie season. The facts suggest that he is comfortable at that level, and with time comes experience. He will likely get better. I can’t take any of what you say seriously
weisses wrote: » He is better then Gasly for sure, But in my opinion he is not the driver who will push red bull forward ... every driver on that grid could have steered the red bull to a P6 in any GP
muckwarrior wrote: » Gasly couldn't. Anyway, Albon doesn't need to be the driver to push Red Bull forward. Verstappen is clearly number 1, Albon just needs to be a solid number 2 and so far he's doing a fairly decent job of that.
weisses wrote: » Can you come up with something that clearly shows Verrstappen being favored ? Remember Ric got pole last year in Mexico, to me that looks like he was getting the same material as Max
chicorytip wrote: » If Max qualifies in pole position then Red Bull expect their other driver to qualify in second position one tenth of a second behind. If Albon is unable get that close enough to Max over the remaining races of the season I think he will get the chop. The team's young driver programme is not producing the goods at present. Kyvat, Gasly, Albon, Ticktum. The problem they have is that there are no experienced drivers available who could do the job. Hulkenberg is really not good enough. Kubica would be a better option than him, strange as it sounds. Alonso looks like he's finished in F1 for good.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » A pole position at an individual race proves nothing. The point was that Ric wanted assurance that he would be given equal opportunity at RB and they didn’t give it. There are all sorts of issues behind the scenes. The political wrangling in the background is important. Max had the upper hand and it was clear to Ric that Max was their man for the short to medium term future.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » One of the early signs would have been who's input they were taking more seriously for developing the next years car (the current car).
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The chances of a red bull winning a championship in the next 3 years is far higher than a Renault. But Ric decided he would have to do it against Max who would have superior support from the team. I don’t have any concrete evidence because I’m not involved. In only have what Ric said and the analysis of people like Joe Saward.
