Messer1 wrote: » If not already seen, you might find reservations about the proposed contract expressed at the Oireachtas Committee by Professor Eoin Reeves, Head of Department of Economics and Dr. Dónal Palcic, Lecturer in Economics, University of Limerick about the 'gap funding model' adopted for the NBP to be helpful in understanding things. Scroll in 30 min for start.https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/joint_committee_on_communications_climate_action_and_environment/2019-06-19/
celticbhoy27 wrote: » https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1186595437865832448?s=09
Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17.20 Private Members’ Business (Labour Party): Motion re National Broadband Plan
Text of the motion is: “That Dáil Éireann: — notes the Report of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment entitled ‘Report on an investigation to examine the National Broadband Plan process thus far and how best to proceed and the best means to roll out rural broadband’, which was laid before both Houses of the Oireachtas on the 27th August, 2019; — endorses the view of the Oireachtas Joint Committee that: high speed broadband is a vital piece of infrastructure for rural Ireland and should be provided as quickly as possible, to the same standard as is available commercially in other parts of the country, at the same cost to consumers as elsewhere and at best value to the taxpayer; and — the broadband network infrastructure should be under the ownership of the State, as it is strategically important; and — resolves that public moneys should not be expended on any proposed broadband telecommunications network unless such a network is, or is to be, owned by a Minister of the Government or a public body on behalf of the people.” Sean Sherlock, Brendan Howlin, Joan Burton, Alan Kelly, Jan O'Sullivan, Willie Penrose, Brendan Ryan.https://www.labour.ie/news/2019/10/22/public-money-demands-public-ownership-of-broadband/
recyclebin wrote: » I still don't see the point in public ownership of the NBP. The Irish State would not have the knowledge to manage or maintain it so it would still be outsourced to a private company. Its also the rural part of the broadband network so not a huge asset to have. It would only make sense if the state owned the entire fibre network in the country and not a small part of it.
The Cush wrote: » I'm not a big fan of John McGuirk but …https://twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1187145809369939968 But they'd be buying a liability. Every penny in upgrades, maintenance, and all the rest of it. Forever.
But they'd be buying a liability. Every penny in upgrades, maintenance, and all the rest of it. Forever.
clohamon wrote: » Would the cashflow that was diverted from maintenance and upgrade into paying dividends over the last 20 years have been enough to to deliver universal FTTP by now? My guess is that it would.
Marlow wrote: » That is assuming, that the money stayed within the incumbent. Ireland does not precisely have a track record of spending tax money or money earned from state companies, where the income occurs. The government could well have done the same thing, pulled the money out in the equivalent to dividents and funnelled it into the exchequer. So above is a big if. /M
False Prophet wrote: » Well they lost the vote so thats prob the end of nbp or at the very least more delays
Jan O'Sullivan: We have not received a proper explanation as to why 300,000 homes were allowed to be squandered to Eir - that may not be the right word to use Brendan Howlin: It certainly is.
clohamon wrote: » The list of NBP Broadband Connection Points has been released for a select audience....https://twitter.com/gloverstweets/status/1187330278043324418 ...and in a completely unrelated event the winners of the third call of the WiFi4EU €15K award have been announced. (Note: Irish winners are in code eg 'Laois B')MUNICIPALITY NAME Cork County D Monaghan A Cork County C Monaghan B Clare C Kilkenny D Clare D Cork County A Cork County B Laois A Laois B Laois C Laois D Cork City B Offaly B Offaly D
A Government source said on Thursday night that final due diligence would continue because “what the deputies are calling for would mean abandoning broadband and rural Ireland for at least five years”. Mr Bruton said the State had to rent 1.5 million poles and 15,000km of duct. “We need a company to string fibre along that private network in order to reach those who would otherwise not be reached. That is the reality.”https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-holds-broadband-course-despite-state-ownership-vote-1.4061906
Michael Fitzmaurice said people were fed up hearing about broadband. He said it was about the 20th debate on the issue and after the vote “damn all” would happen. “We will not have broadband this Christmas or probably next Christmas because the will does not seem to be there.” He said that if the Government “is going to sign a contract it should get on and do it and if not, it should come out and say so and let us go to the polls and face the people”.
ArrBee wrote: I wonder how these "connection points" are likely to work....?
Pique wrote: » Same here? Are they part of a planned infrastructure to branch off from to the houses in that area like exchanges?
ArrBee wrote: » Sounds reasonable on paper. but I wonder how practical it is hence my question "am I missing something?"
Messer1 wrote: » NBP intends to deploy wireless to provide broadband to 350 key strategic community points within the first twelve months following signing of the NBP contract. A spokesman for a consortium member told the Sunday Business Post (8th September 2019) that “this is wireless, which is kind of funny to be starting the NBP by rolling out wireless points, but it’s bringing broadband connectivity to parts of the country that haven’t had it. As fibre gets rolled out, these will be removed”.
Messer1 wrote: » NBP intends to deploy wireless to provide broadband to 350 key strategic community points within the first twelve months following signing of the NBP contract.
ArrBee wrote: » Thanks for the clarification. My primary question remains valid though. "how useful is a community connection?" I can't imagine desks being set up to facilitate remote working etc.
ussjtrunks wrote: » I think the community idea is great but why are they delivering these through wireless instead of a fiber cable? It could be brilliant for children who have god awful internet right now
Orebro wrote: » I'd say thats exactly what is planned. There are kids right now in this country that have to go to local shopping centre carparks or the like with their parents to get onto a wifi connection to do some school work. Absolutely ridiculous. And yet there are still some on here that don't want broadband delivered so they can do this at home, because nothing goes on in this country outside of the M50 as we all know. Lets get the deal signed and close this bloody thread! (Just waiting for the Elon Musk satellite brigade to arrive now).
theguzman wrote: » Anybody know what towns or villages will have these Broadband hubs? I presume it will be something similar to the Ludgate or Sneem hubs of late?
