Joe_ Public wrote: » "Vote for me - i'm better than Theresa May." Could be another great campaign slogan. I guess, though, if she'd been willing to go back on her promises, like Johnson was, then she could very easily have got to this stage too.
VinLieger wrote: » He has provably lied countless times while working as a journalist(for which he lost his job) while Mayor of London, while an MP and since he became PM, therefore by the very definition of "degenerate" ie "an immoral or corrupt person." he is definitely one.
Letwin_Larry wrote: » what about "Vote for me & my party! I'm not as big a $hyster as the others!" probably suit Jo Swinson most, and BoJo or Farage least.
eagle eye wrote: » There are lots of people who think he is normal and a great man. See the Brexit referendum andreccet polls and the UK European election for proof. Sp just because you and I disagree with his politics and beliefs that does not make the man a degenerate. In fact anybody calling him that is closer to being one.
BarryD2 wrote: » It seems that he'll have to go with a 3 month extension at least. If he goes for a short one, then the opposition can organise to table amendments like a customs union which would be anathema to him. So he would then be humiliated into asking for another extension for a general election. They need a GE to sort it out but I suppose the question of the timing is who can win the wrestling match to get the best narrative. When it does happen, it'll be very interesting to see what happens up north. You could see that voters on both sides of the divide up there will be rightly pissed off with the MPs they elected last time for different reasons. Alliance could be big winners and rightly so.
Joe_ Public wrote: » Johnson can of course circumvent the ftpa by introducing a one line bill to force an election. Just requires a simple majority to achieve it. Such a bill can be amended though so that might put him off a bit.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » When questioned on what the UKGov does if, in the longer term, Stormont doesn't reconvene the NI SoS, at the NI Affairs Committee, advises that they'd have to work very closely with Dublin. A thinly veiled threat of joint authority.
Enzokk wrote: » How does he get an election? If he resigns it doesn't mean an election and he doesn't have the numbers to vote for one either. He cannot call a VONC in himself, at least I don't think he can as that would look very bad at the polls.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Just because an MP voted for the second reading stage doesn't mean they'll make it law.
J Mysterio wrote: » Terrible tragedy of smuggled people dying in lorry cargo seems oddly prescient given the debate and trouble over the 'sea border'. The lorry came to London via Holyhead from Bulgaria via Ireland. Strange route of course.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/thirty-nine-people-found-dead-in-a-container-in-essex-1.4060089?mode=amp
farmchoice wrote: » this option has been mooted repeatedly by everyone but team Johnson, for some reason they definitely dont fancy it, i suppose if it could amended it could present all sorts of problems for him.
J Mysterio wrote: » Terrible tragedy of smuggled people dying in lorry cargo seems oddly prescient given the debate and trouble over the 'sea border'. The lorry came to London via Holyhead from Bulgaria via Ireland. Strange route of course.Thirty-nine people found dead in a container in Essex. Lorry driver from Northern Ireland has been arrested on suspicion of murder
Letwin_Larry wrote: » truly horrific. my guess is they are probably from Syria. as if their lives couldn't get any worse. immigration going to be a big issue in any GE.
farmchoice wrote: » not to go off topic too much but there is obliviously something not right in the details of the story, why the hell go all the way through the england only to leave again to then re-enter through NI.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Can ya link to that?
farmchoice wrote: » we dont know are are living folks, those poor people just trying to have a bit of a life for themselves, hoping against hope to get a small bit of what we have and what we take for granted. there are Syrian refugees in my town, i know a few of them, decent family people, just trying their best.
tuxy wrote: » Will amendments have to be approved by the EU? I guess it depends on what they might be.
Purgative wrote: » Maybe we get a few Mill from the EU for a few years. It will make a good headline, I'm sure. Will that be enough to repair the damage to farm incomes? Enough to unravel the milk processing scheme that zig-zags across the border like a cats cradle? Enough for the extra Garda for when the North kicks off again?
sondagefaux wrote: » The amendments would not be to the Withdrawal Agreement itself but to the Withdrawal Agreement Bill. Amendments could, for example, force the UK government to seek a 2 year extension to the Withdrawal Agreement (due to expire on 31.12.2020 but can be extended up to 31.12.2022 by mutual agreement between the UK and EU) which the EU would almost certainly agree to. Amendments could also force a UK government to seek to negotiate a customs union with the EU, and to seek to negotiate continuing alignment with EU rules on workers' rights, environmental law etc, all of which the EU would almost certainly agree to. An amendment to ensure that the Bill would only become law if approved in a referendum, with a clause that says the UK will remain in the UK if the referendum does not approve the Bill, is also possible, although far less certain to pass. This may require a longer extension if it does pass, as existing UK electoral law means that about 22 weeks is needed to prepare for and hold a referendum once parliament passes a law to call a referendum. But an amendment on a referendum on the Withdrawal Agreement Bill could amend existing electoral law and allow for a referendum to be held within 6 weekswell before the January 31st deadline, as argued by Jessica Simor in the Observer last Sunday.
lawred2 wrote: » France Rosslare is what I would guess
Joe_ Public wrote: » One question i'd have about, say, a cu amendment is you'd be mandating Johnson, assuming he's still pm, to negotiate it with the eu. How can you ensure he does so in good faith? Are their provisions that will force him to do so or that would kick in in the event he failed?
Letwin_Larry wrote: » you could well be correct. perhaps the truck had come from the continent and was enroute to Ireland. could it have been resting-up in Essex before the journey to Holyhead?
