threeball wrote: » They also couldn't introduce a give away budget which will hurt them come election time so I don't think its as beneficial as the poster suggested.
Torsevt wrote: » Ya but he's coasting now all the way following a simple enough playbook
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » No. Leo was there as jointly agreed choreography by the EU and the UK so that BJ could present his concessions with the right optics. He has to be seen not to concede to the EU. But could do it directly with Ireland under the guise of mutual cooperation and concern for peace, the border, the GFA, etc. In reality, Leo was not there under his own steam, and has no scope independent of the EU. But was the acceptable face proxy for M Barnier for this manœuvre. Its then a case of working on the Unionists in the North to make it work. And everyone is a hero. BJ delivers. Leo guardian of peace and economics on the island. And the EU, for expertly pulling the puppet strings that solved this impasse. Even the unionists get what they want even though they can't admit it, and yet have been seen to fight their corner and uphold their values.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » Well that was actually discussed on a piece on Morning Ireland this morning in the context of a snap general election. FG may, in an election campaign, use the fact that this weeks budget was not a "give away", "election" budget as a example of them being fiscally prudent and a safe pair of hands.
Strazdas wrote: » The next 24 hours will be make or break. Baker will have to give Barnier solid and detailed proposals, not just vague assurances.
The UK has still not come forward with a workable, realistic proposal. But I have received promising signals from Taoiseach @LeoVaradkar that a deal is possible. Even the slightest chance must be used. A no deal #Brexit will never be the choice of the EU.
trellheim wrote: » Tusk throwing shade (before the meeting ended)https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1182581870363590656
josip wrote: » But won't Scotland also want whatever arrangement is being proposed for NI? Not our problem to solve, but an obstacle to agreeing a possible deal surely?
Mr.Wemmick wrote: » The confusion, for me at least: 1. Is this the EU really trying to get rid of toxic UK politics/ brexit. They have had enough, and who could blame them? I have my doubts though as a poor exit will mean further difficulties and painful times down the road for the EU/IRL? 2. Positive language at play as an optic to prove Ireland and EU are listening, trying, being supportive of brexit, no matter it's stupidity. Blame then less likely to stick when it goes to the wall on 31st Oct. Either, or? Both?
BarryD2 wrote: » Dunno, but playing with Johnson and his supporters seems to be like handing dodgy fireworks - they could easily go off in your hands. He was boxed into a situation where an extension and general election/ referendum seemed the only way out. And now he's been thrown a bit of a lifeline.
trellheim wrote: » no we need to be in the tunnel by end of play today or Tusk is going to call it off
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » But he an Covney have also done a good job on Brexit. They have made sure that the GFA, the cross border economy and the "normalsee” (sp) of life on the island have been front and center from day one. It would be easy for Europeans in far flung places like Bulgaria, Estonia etc and not so far flung like France or The Netherlands to just cast Ireland aside as collateral damage and plough on with a deal that would have been easier to do. But no they didn't, and that is in a large part due to Ireland leadership on this.
Enzokk wrote: » I am going to be cynical and say that Johnson is playing the EU here, this is just more time wasting from him and he knows that he cannot get a deal and get it passed and get is legislated in time to leave by the 31st as he promised so I am calling rubbish on him trying now to get a deal.
Mr.Wemmick wrote: » 1. Is this the EU really trying to get rid of toxic UK politics/ brexit. They have had enough, and who could blame them? I have my doubts though as a poor exit will mean further difficulties and painful times down the road for the EU/IRL?
2. Positive language at play as an optic to prove Ireland and EU are listening, trying, being supportive of brexit, no matter it's stupidity. Blame then less likely to stick when it goes to the wall on 31st Oct.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » I actually find the depth of understanding on the GFA and Irish border consistently expressed by EU statespeople incredibly moving. Our diplomatic core deserve a ton of credit for pushing the issues and making them consumable, but the willingness of EU politicians to really dig into the topics, grasp them and defend our position on them is amazing. I hope we can repay the favour in time.
blackcard wrote: » I am worried that we have used up all our favours with other EU countries and still be in a worse position than if Brexit had never happened. If other EU countries come looking for changes to our Corporate tax system, we will be in a position to say no.
seamus wrote: » Yeah, it seems likely. The rumblings coming out from the Leo/Boris meeting last night gave me the impression that the UK was willing to concede in part; perhaps accept the backstop in exchange for something else on the EU side. The experience of the last 3 years tells me that the British PM (whoever it is) will say literally anything to placate foreign leaders and then return home and say something else, even if they're entirely incompatible.
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