astrofluff wrote: » Its fairly obvious that Vettel is not a team player, or at least, won't give up a win unnecessarily. Multi 21 is all Charles needs to know. He shouldn't be fooled twice and should now just race for himself, and help the team only if it utilmately benefits him.
eviltimeban wrote: » Much as I like Hulk, if he went to Ferrari he'd be a definite number 2 driver. Sure, he might get a few wins and podiums but he would never be the favourite.
chicorytip wrote: » Leclerc is a very fortunate young man indeed to have landed the Ferrari gig so early in his career. Verstappen is a much more accomplished racer but has made a mistake signing with Red Bull again. He needs to be in a silver or red car. Vettel is desperate to win a title with Ferrari but the team bosses clearly no longer want him around.
meeeeh wrote: » Well the new Verstappen should be first able to get close enough to his teammate. Yesterday Leclerc wasn't able to follow Vettel. At the moment Leclerc won 2 races hell have to show a bit more before he can claim no1 status. I like Leclerc and he reminds me of young Schumacher but it will take a bit longer to establish how good he actually is. Vettel was much better getting through the traffic in Singapore for example.
GarIT wrote: » Did you not hear Vettel yesterday? I think they would have a hard time trying to convince him to be a full time wingman for LeClerc. Unless you think someone on Verstappen's level should be number two to someone who was beaten by Ricciardo.
GarIT wrote: » I watch for the strategy couldn't really care who is overtaking who. And I feel the opposite about the Ferrari situation, LeClerc would be far ahead of Vettel if LeClerc wasn't playing the team game all the time and then Vettel won't give back the help he is being given. Vettel needs to be dropped for Hulk or Alonso. Whatever happens LeClerc needs to stop playing the team game and get talking to Mercedes and Red Bull.
meeeeh wrote: » There is a running joke in our house that according to Autosport Ferrari should give a chance to Kubica and Hulkenberg. They deserve it. No sane Ferrari fan would want either Hulkenberg or Alonso. One had enough chances and didn't even manage the podium and the other one would burn down his own garage if it suited them. Maybe Mercedes should replace Bottas with one of them or maybe they should both go to McLaren. I'm sure they will win everything next year with their fastest chassis on the grid. Anyway Vettel and Leclerc is good, despite their bickering Ferrari can actually attempt strategic racing using their second driver.
eviltimeban wrote: » Is it health though? I read somewhere that he only commits to X number of races, so if there are more on the calendar he doesn't do them. He's hardly watching his health if he's racing!
recyclebin wrote: » Le Clerc will have learned a lot so far this season. I can see a Hamilton/Rosberg type scenario developing where both Ferrari will take each other out at first corner just to prove a point.
PopePalpatine wrote: » He misses a few races every year because of health concerns. Sure beats putting up with David Croft's shïtstirring.
uchimata83 wrote: » Brutal, where was Brundle today? It's a clown show without him
GarIT wrote: » Did you not hear Vettel yesterday? I think they would have a hard time trying to convince him to be a full time wingman for LeClerc.
meeeeh wrote: » Anyway Vettel and Leclerc is good, despite their bickering Ferrari can actually attempt strategic racing using their second driver.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » “Manufacturers just want easy money” “Future” doesn’t make money”. Ah here. You’re right about the growing viewership, but these two statements are miles off the mark. “Future doesn’t make money” is a particular low point when discussing an industry that spends billions on future technologies. As an example, Jaguar spent £100m on a “future technologies” research facility in Warwick. Then joined FE.
quokula wrote: » I don’t understand the obsession with manufacturers anyway. When I first got into F1 there was McLaren, Williams, Ligier, Jordan, Sauber, Lotus, Tyrrell, Benetton, Minardi etc - the only manufacturer on the grid were Ferrari, who are unique because they were an F1 team first and sold cars later to fund the F1. Further back before my time there were periods when the entire grid were using cosworth engines. Manufacturers have dipped in and out throughout history, but it’s really only in the last 10 a 15 years that they’ve become the dominant force to the detriment of proper old fashioned racing teams. Personally I’d be happy if they all jumped ship to FE and we returned to a proper sport rather than a R&D / marketing exercise for the likes of Mercedes.
pjohnson wrote: » Manufacturers just want easy money. FE is lost cost to enter and is a (per Season 5 figures) rapidly growing market. Growing market = increasing returns. Low cost and effort required to enter then yielding potential decent returns = very attractive and no real risk attached. Its just basic business. "Future" doesnt make money, low risk investments are a no brainer.
murphyebass wrote: » Can’t wait for all these rule changes. Yesterday was so boring. Crofty said something all the lines of not a lot of wheel to wheel action today but the strategies are fascinating. Ok the strategy is interesting to a point but come on! I watch motorsport to see wheel to wheel action, overtakes etc.. not bleeding strategy. Knowing that it’ll be Ferrari, Mercedes, to a lesser extent Red Bull and then don’t concern yourself with the rest is boring. I watched a bit of the formula e this year. It had a different winner every other race. Everyone has a chance. Ps.. I’m not the biggest Vettel fan but when Charles le clerc went all man child on the radio AGAIN yesterday I wanted to punch him and for Vettel to win just to spite the little spoilt child. But alas, Ferrari be Ferrari. Ugh
uchimata83 wrote: » GarIT wrote: » I would pay good money to be able to watch F1 with commentary in English without ever having to hear Paul DiResta say "meejum tyre" again. Brutal, where was Brundle today? It's a clown show without him
GarIT wrote: » I would pay good money to be able to watch F1 with commentary in English without ever having to hear Paul DiResta say "meejum tyre" again.
