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Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

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New thread ladsðŸ˜ŠðŸ˜Š Any update on injuries for this weekends game?

Mod edit: Given how the last thread descended into chaos, we are going to leave that closed and start afresh

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Road-Hog

DiscoStew wrote: »

I would look at it differently in that Cork were well in control until Cahalane needlessly got himself sent off, although it was a hugely enjoyable win!

Kingston left on his own terms I believe, due to work commitments and Sully was seemingly popular with players in a similar way to how Dan was here. So they are essentially adding 2 coaches with huge experience into that management team that saw them reach a semi final.
They might still be short in the half back line but I do think they have put an excellent management team together here, and possibly have a successor to Kingston there in Mulcahy too. I wouldn’t consider our rumoured management team to be in the same league of Corks or the current Limerick / Tipp ones.
Not saying it can’t be a success, maybe it will be the making of Browne / Molumphy if they are indeed on the ticket.

Well in control...??......52 mins gone and only a point up they then lost a fairly average player in cahalane and end up loosing by 11......???

What’s the difference between Kingston returning to the langers and Derek McGrath returning to Waterford......?

DiscoStew

Road-Hog wrote: »

Well in control...??......52 mins gone and only a point up they then lost a fairly average player in cahalane and end up loosing by 11......???

Well a 12 point swing would indicate that his loss was quite significant, yes.

TheScoringGoal

DiscoStew wrote: »

I would look at it differently in that Cork were well in control until Cahalane needlessly got himself sent off, although it was a hugely enjoyable win!

Kingston left on his own terms I believe, due to work commitments and Sully was seemingly popular with players in a similar way to how Dan was here. So they are essentially adding 2 coaches with huge experience into that management team that saw them reach a semi final.
They might still be short in the half back line but I do think they have put an excellent management team together here, and possibly have a successor to Kingston there in Mulcahy too. I wouldn’t consider our rumoured management team to be in the same league of Corks or the current Limerick / Tipp ones.
Not saying it can’t be a success, maybe it will be the making of Browne / Molumphy if they are indeed on the ticket.

Surely it depends on the role that each person has in a back room team. For example Stephen Molumphy is extremely high up in the army. Clearly he has a very strong skill set to achieve such a role. If those skills are what he's being asked to bring to a role with Waterford then I'd suggest he's an excellent addition, even leaving aside his own hurling experience.

However obviously there are a wide range of bases to cover so he'd need to fit in with the overall management team to ensure this happens. Tipp this year seem a good example of how Sheedy took overall charge but ensured all aspects were covered. We will be at a disadvantage as we don't have their budget but to me someone like Molumphy is a good start.

DiscoStew

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

Surely it depends on the role that each person has in a back room team. For example Stephen Molumphy is extremely high up in the army. Clearly he has a very strong skill set to achieve such a role. If those skills are what he's being asked to bring to a role with Waterford then I'd suggest he's an excellent addition, even leaving aside his own hurling experience.

However obviously there are a wide range of bases to cover so he'd need to fit in with the overall management team to ensure this happens. Tipp this year seem a good example of how Sheedy took overall charge but ensured all aspects were covered. We will be at a disadvantage as we don't have their budget but to me someone like Molumphy is a good start.

Good point, I was thinking of it more from a coaching perspective but it could be that Cahill sees other useful attributes other than just coaching / training. I do think having a few good coaches working together would be useful though while the manager just oversees the training sessions coordinating and interacting with players.

PTH2009

Cahill or whoever gets the job needs to first and foremost stand up to last years squad and say 'it's my way, theres the door if u want'

Mastermcgrath

Lingoweet913 wrote: »

This hasn’t what I’ve been told but fair enough, let’s hope it’s the case and he helps us go to the next level.

Feedback for you Lingoweet. A more productive approach next time would be ‘Ive been told xxxx coaching methods are not forward thinking enough, does anyone have any first hand experience’ versus; ‘He’s clueless’. see the difference?

Typical of the negative Ill informed bull**** that we have to endure from many regulars on here

Lingoweet913

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Feedback for you Lingoweet. A more productive approach next time would be ‘Ive been told xxxx coaching methods are not forward thinking enough, does anyone have any first hand experience’ versus; ‘He’s clueless’. see the difference?

Typical of the negative Ill informed bull**** that we have to endure from many regulars on here

Alright my good man, I accepted I was wrong in not elaborating and posting a lazy soundbite, let’s move on. I’m glad you’re so well informed but maybe don’t be so condescending along with it.

hardybuck

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

Surely it depends on the role that each person has in a back room team. For example Stephen Molumphy is extremely high up in the army

Let's not get carried away with ourselves there, a senior officer.

mickotallow

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What’s the difference between Kingston returning to the langers and Derek McGrath returning to Waterford......?[/quote]

Well for a start Kingston didn’t spend every waking minute in the media undermining last years management. Also Kingston only had one year I think before he left for work commitments. So probably feels he has unfinished business. Derek had 5 years. He had his time. Bringing him back would be the ultimate backwards step. If Cahill is the man, we need a clean sweep of backroom staff associated with the Derek era. Change the maor uisces, Hurley carriers etc and put his thumb print on everything.

Obi1mikal

Can anyone explain the thinking behind one semi final in dungarven and the next one starting an hour after in Walsh park. Do they not want people at them??

[Deleted User]

Obi1mikal wrote: »

Can anyone explain the thinking behind one semi final in dungarven and the next one starting an hour after in Walsh park. Do they not want people at them??

Just trying to decide whether I attempt both, it’s just too tight for comfort and I don’t like rushing. Game 1 should be done by 4pm allowing for injury time but then you’ve to get out and back to your car and hope you don’t get stuck in traffic. You might arrive at Walsh Park by 5pm and get lucky with parking so I think it’s possible but not comfortable. Another half hour would have been nice or just a bit more common sense like having the Walsh Park game yesterday!

hardybuck

Even Saturday night lights in Dungarvan would have attracted a great crowd and been great for the atmosphere in the town, weather dependent.

mountgomery burns

Obi1mikal wrote: »

Can anyone explain the thinking behind one semi final in dungarven and the next one starting an hour after in Walsh park. Do they not want people at them??

PJR said Dungarvan have a home and away agreement with the City teams and since they played BG in the groups in Walsh Park they are owed the game.

PTH2009

Senior hurling relegation ended in a draw Fourmilewater 1-12- Ballyduff Upper 0-15. Replay date tbc

KevIRL

Ballygunner hacking it home in first semi final

PTH2009

Ballygunner 2-22- Dungarvan 1-13 FT

Any sign of anyone interesting attending the game

Motivator

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ballygunner 2-22- Dungarvan 1-13 FT

Any sign of anyone interesting attending the game

John Gilligan

debok

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ballygunner 2-22- Dungarvan 1-13 FT

Any sign of anyone interesting attending the game

Jedward

cul beag

Clinical performance by Ballygunner today and didn’t really have to come out of second gear. The game was over the minute Hogan hit the net in the first half. Ian Kenny was impressive as was Paudie Mahoney and Billy O Keeffe. They’re going from strength to strength as a club as their intermediate team are in the eastern final along with all their juvenile teams nearly winning their individual county titles. Unfortunately for everyone else in the county they’re going nowhere anytime soon so unless something miraculous happens I can’t see it changing in the distant future. Some of their teams may be beaten at some stage but as a production line coming for the senior team it is rotating at knots.

emergingstar

What will happen if they win intermediate

Stacksofwacks

emergingstar wrote: »

What will happen if they win intermediate

They stay intermediate, runner up promoted to senior

Road-Hog

cul beag wrote: »

Clinical performance by Ballygunner today and didn’t really have to come out of second gear. The game was over the minute Hogan hit the net in the first half. Ian Kenny was impressive as was Paudie Mahoney and Billy O Keeffe. They’re going from strength to strength as a club as their intermediate team are in the eastern final along with all their juvenile teams nearly winning their individual county titles. Unfortunately for everyone else in the county they’re going nowhere anytime soon so unless something miraculous happens I can’t see it changing in the distant future. Some of their teams may be beaten at some stage but as a production line coming for the senior team it is rotating at knots.

Bit like Dublin in the football. They could easily do 7/8 in a row. Mt sion did nine on the trot in the 1950’s/60’s as did Erin’s Own in the 1920’s/30’s so they have a few titles to go yet before they start record breaking....?

I think crossmaglen did something like 13 in a row Armagh football titles and ballymacarbery in ladies football have something like 38 in a row

PTH2009

The mount Sion record is broken. DLS 1-20- Mount Sion 1-16

DLS vs Ballygunner final

Waterford champs play the Clare champs away in the Munster QF. Very tough draw the winners host the Limerick champs in the semi finals

[Deleted User]

Good game in Walsh Park. Mount Sion seemed well prepared and up for the battle. The early goal was a sucker punch but they kept going and were full value for a tied game at half time. Austin Gleeson was at his very best in the first half and his work rate, striking and team play was as good as I've seen it. De La Salle's half back line started to dominate the second half and Austin seemed to pull a ham string and could barely walk so went in full forward for the last 15-20 mins. Iggy made two wonder saves in the game too. All in all DLS half back line won the game for them with a tremendous second half.

Road-Hog

PTH2009 wrote: »

The mount Sion record is broken. DLS 1-20- Mount Sion 1-16

DLS vs Ballygunner final

Waterford champs play the Clare champs away in the Munster QF. Very tough draw the winners host the Limerick champs in the semi finals

Can you elaborate on the mt sion record that you refer to.....?ik

Christy Browne

Road-Hog wrote: »

Can you elaborate on the mt sion record that you refer to.....?ik

A county title in every decade since the club was founded.

tommylad1212

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

They stay intermediate, runner up promoted to senior

No they dont

Alf Tupper

Cahill, Molomphy, Hartley, Bevans are the new dream team.

Donal Og, Sean Og, Tom Kenny in charge of the Cork minors.

Mastermcgrath

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

They stay intermediate, runner up promoted to senior

Pretty sure no one gets promoted. Runner up competes in Munster club alright

Giveitfong

Ballygunner 2-22 Dungarvan 1-13
Ballygunner had no trouble overcoming a very weak Dungarvan challenge in the county semi-final in Fraher Field this afternoon. Whereas Dungarvan displayed good organisation and application in their quarter final win over Abbeyside, today they were a shambles. Their first touch was poor, their concentration non-existent, their decision-making terrible and execution even worse. We have seen this kind of non-performance by Dungarvan before, but for what is mainly an experienced team, this was really disappointing.
By contrast, Ballygunner’s self-confidence is sky-high, while they are also very skillful and well-organised. They passed the ball around to great effect, adhering to the modern hurling precept of never hitting the ball blind unless there is no alternative. They therefore concentrated on keeping possession until a player was put in the clear to pick his target. It helped their cause that Dungarvan were extraordinarily loose, so there were always free players all over the place to pick out for a pass.
Playing against the stiff wind, Dungarvan scored a couple of early points and then failed to score for another 25 minutes until a late flurry saw them adding four points for a half-time tally of six. By then Ballygunner had 1-14 on the board, the goal coming from Peter Hogan in the 16th minute following some poor Dungarvan defending. Dungarvan did get a penalty just before half-time but Patrick Curran’s poor shot was easily saved by Stephen O’Keeffe.
It quickly became apparent after the change of ends that Dungarvan were incapable of making a fight of it, and the second half became a bore as Ballygunner played the ball around as they liked. Michael Mahony scored their second goal in the 42nd minute after a good passing movement. Patrick Curran got Dungarvan’s goal with the game almost over after a shot rebounded off the post.
It is hard to assess the real value of individual performances in a game like this, but Ian Kenny and Eddie Hayden mopped up at the back for Ballygunner while I was also impressed by Billy O’Keeffe at midfield and Conor Sheahan, who wore the number five but was all over the place and helped himself to two points. Dessie Hutchinson made quite an impression – especially in the first half – with his pace and ball control, striking four points. Peter Hogan put in a very good second half.
The only Dungarvan players who can hold their heads up were centre back Kieran Power, who performed impressively against overwhelming odds, and Cathal Curran who put in a hard-working shift, yielding three points.
I only got to see the second half of the relegation playoff between Fourmilewater and Ballyduff Upper which ended in a draw (FMW 1-12 Ballyduff 0-15). FMW went in at half-time two points up thanks to a goal from old stalwart Shane Walsh just before the break. The second half was reasonably entertaining but lacked intensity. The swirling wind contributed to a lot of wides for both sides. Eoghan Murray seemed to have won it for Ballyduff with a massive late long-range point but in the last attack of the game, FMW’s Richie Fenton shot a deserved equaliser.
A feature of the second half was an outstanding display by the ageless Stephen Molumphy. His ability to turn up wherever the ball was landing and win dirty ball remains as good as ever. Shane Walsh also showed up well for FMW.
I didn’t go to the game in Walsh Park as a protest against the idiocy of playing both semi-finals on the same afternoon at different venues. Since when have participating clubs been able to determine the venues for these games? And does the County Board give a toss for the convenience of the supporters on whom they depend for their survival?
Ballygunner: Stephen O’Keeffe; Ian Kenny; Eddie Hayden; Barry Coughlan; Conor Sheahan (0-2); Philip Mahony; Shane O’Sullivan; Michael Mahony (1-2); Billy O’Keeffe; Dessie Hutchinson (0-4); Pauric Mahony (0-10, 6 frees); Barry O’Sullivan (0-1); Peter Hogan (1-2); Tim O’Sullivan; Paddy Leavy.
Subs: Wayne Hutchinson for Barry Coughlan, Conor Power for Conor Sheahan and JJ Hutchinson (0-1) for Tim O’Sullivan (all 54th minute); Tadhg Foley for Billy O’Keeffe and Tom Gallagher for Philip Mahony (both 58th minute).
Dungarvan: Gavin Power; Darragh Lyons; John Curran; Seán Ryan; Jamie Nagle; Kieran Power; Kenny Moore; Michael Kiely (0-1); Jack Lacey; Cathal Curran (0-3); Joe Allen; Ryan Donnelly (0-5, 4 frees); Aaron Donnelly; Patrick Curran (1-1); Gavin Crotty (0-1).
Subs: Colm Curran (0-2) for Kenny Moore (injured, 13th minute); Cormac Curran for Aaron Donnelly (30th minute); Kealan Daly for Michael Kiely (49th minute); Joe Duggan for Cormac Curran (51st minute).