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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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marno21

Local resident has a problem with the "undemocratic" apartment block on the South Link Rd.

The funny thing is at the end of the video "imagine a 17 storey apartment block" while pointing at an actual 17 storey apartment block

https://twitter.com/FionaRedFM/status/1171741245703622658

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

munstermagic11 wrote: »

We have the Tánaiste and the leader of the main opposition party (propping up the Government), but a Mayor would swing things for us in Cork?
This is the type of vague stuff that hampered those in favor of such as Mayor as the position was never clarified as to exactly what powers they would have.

It sure wasn't clear enough. The benefits that a directly elected Cork City Mayor would have brought to us are hard to articulate. But I know deep down we made the wrong decision with it. Having a person that is democratically elected to represent our city on a national basis would have done us solid.

The Tanaiste and M Martin having a constituent base here isn't enough. I expect nothing from them. Being focused on Cork issues with an absolute force would have done us the power of good.

namloc1980

An actual real life NIMBY. It's grand for Mahon but no way in my back yard.

questionmark?

marno21 wrote: »

The funny thing is at the end of the video "imagine a 17 storey apartment block" while pointing at an actual 17 storey apartment block

https://twitter.com/FionaRedFM/status/1171741245703622658

I got a good giggle off that. Literally pointing at the 17 storey building. She could have said it will be like looking at that building there!

leahyl

shnaek wrote: »

I was chatting one of the owners of a business on that road and they will be resurfacing it soon.

That’s good to hear, they’re doing the footpaths this week, twas too much for me - meanwhile the road is falling asunder, imagine the state of it come the winter if they don’t do it soon.

snotboogie

https://twitter.com/WonkyAnkle/status/1172790247190663169?s=19

Tomtom364

snotboogie wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WonkyAnkle/status/1172790247190663169?s=19

I saw they were doing the insulation cladding on the Dean hotel all day yesterday aswell so they really are ploughing ahead if they are working full Saturdays.

And if that is true about the prism building I will know a couple of very miffed companies

Rhys Essien

Looks like another prime property going on the market shortly.

https://twitter.com/irishmailsunday/status/1173000974530535425?s=21

ofcork

Tomtom364 wrote: »

I saw they were doing the insulation cladding on the Dean hotel all day yesterday aswell so they really are ploughing ahead if they are working full Saturdays.

And if that is true about the prism building I will know a couple of very miffed companies

Didn't realise they had started building the dean hotel no tower crane there?

Tomtom364

ofcork wrote: »

Didn't realise they had started building the dean hotel no tower crane there?

Isnt the Dean the odd slanted building next to the train station?

ofcork

No the Dean hotel is planned for behind the bus station.

snotboogie

ofcork wrote: »

No the Dean hotel is planned for behind the bus station.

No The Dean Hotel is the train station one, the Parnell Place Hotel is by the bus station. Predictably the PP Hotel has gone totally silent since promising an October start after getting planning during the summer

ofcork

Sorry you are right Metropole expansion gone quiet too?

snotboogie

ofcork wrote: »

Sorry you are right Metropole expansion gone quiet too?

Ya, like probably half a dozen other hotel developments (South Mall, Sullivans Quay, Grand Parade, Parnell Place, Morrissons Island and The M) it depends on the Events Centre.

TheChizler

snotboogie wrote: »

Ya, like probably half a dozen other hotel developments (South Mall, Sullivans Quay, Grand Parade, Parnell Place, Morrissons Island and The M) it depends on the Events Centre.

I'd be slow to put it all down to that, there were a load all announced around the same time, they might be worried about over saturation.

rounders

ofcork wrote: »

Sorry you are right Metropole expansion gone quiet too?

Metropole was always not supposed to start until next year I'm sure

snotboogie

https://twitter.com/EoinBearla/status/1173876931219079168?s=19

snotboogie

After two years of bluster and grand announcements of tall buildings, this is the first time shovels are actually in the ground for a building with a storey count in double figures since the recession:

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1174275274629885954?s=20

Hopefully the Coca Cola site is to follow very soon.

opus

snotboogie wrote: »

After two years of bluster and grand announcements of tall buildings, this is the first time shovels are actually in the ground for a building with a storey count in double figures since the recession:

Wow, now I'll have to take a cycle by there after work to have a look!

bingo9999

Nancy Spain's redevelopment into residential is starting too apparently

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Work-to-begin-on-new-Barrack-Street-apartments-to-encourage-new-families-to-live-on-the-street-912d8e7c-be54-4079-aedd-115dbf4d56ae-ds

polaris68

opus wrote: »

Wow, now I'll have to take a cycle by there after work to have a look!

Just walked by a few minutes ago - a few vans and cars in the old carpark. If they've left by the time you get there then you aren't going to see any changes.

Hopefully a wall or something will get knocked before the weekend.

polaris68

Glenanaar pub apartment development appealed to ABP.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/plans-for-apartment-block-on-site-of-former-cork-pub-put-on-hold-951519.html

Apogee

snotboogie wrote: »

After two years of bluster and grand announcements of tall buildings, this is the first time shovels are actually in the ground for a building with a storey count in double figures since the recession:

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1174275274629885954?s=20

Hopefully the Coca Cola site is to follow very soon.

Remarkable, given the level of demand, why these student accommodation projects seem to be so slow to start after receiving planning approval.

opus

polaris68 wrote: »

Just walked by a few minutes ago - a few vans and cars in the old carpark. If they've left by the time you get there then you aren't going to see any changes.

Hopefully a wall or something will get knocked before the weekend.

Yup it was quite the anti-climax, didn't notice a single change. Will give it a few days to get going properly.

CHealy

Were ye expecting half a lift shaft already or something??? Give it a couple of months anyway lads.

snotboogie

I suppose we'd be able to notice some activity? CIS have been wrong on this site many times before but it was always "Work starting in March/June/August" rather than work has actually begun now. If they are right we'll surely notice something over the next few weeks.

opus

CHealy wrote: »

Were ye expecting half a lift shaft already or something??? Give it a couple of months anyway lads.

No I just was hoping to see something (anything!) that showed work had started. After all remember this from back in the day

marno21

I pass it most mornings so I’ll keep an eye out. Nothing of note has changed this week anyway. I wouldn’t expect to see massive change this quick though.

“Car park” on the Carrigrohane side was full again this morning

ofcork

Whats being built by the car park on grattan street.

opus

Great to hear this!

https://twitter.com/KarlDiskin/status/1176133536635609090

This is the site currently.