RugbyLover123 wrote: » Embarrassing stuff from Dublin fans failing to admit they benefit from extreme advantages in their favour. I think the fact they have no other real response to the facts other then ‘stop whinging’ or ‘sore losers’ says it all.
RugbyLover123 wrote: » The dublin hurling team were absolutely muck when I was growing up now they are competing with Kilkenny and beating Galway. It’s only a matter of time before they win Liam. They also aren’t as dominant as the Gaelic team as hurling wasn’t or hasn’t been as popular in Dublin as Gaelic, but now with it growing its only a matter of time before they become an even stronger and dominant force in hurling.
RugbyLover123 wrote: » Again, your response doesn’t address the points I’ve raised. You have no come back to them again, other then to try pick holes in me as a person. Which I think tells me all I need to know.
Trey13 wrote: » The funding of the Dublin intercounty team is not as disproportionate as the overall funding would suggest. Every senior intercounty team has as much backroom staff and gear and all the rest. If Dublin go onto win 7 of the next 10 all irelands then I could accept the ‘financial doping’ line. The funding since 2007 is probably spent on underage but the nucleus of the last 10 years would not have benefited from that. Even still the lads around 25 wouldn’t have either. Jim Gavin completely transformed the culture and mindset of Dublin football and it’s a pity that is being lost among these discussions
risteard7 wrote: » Stop supporting the GAA until it's fair game, simple as that.
kyote00 wrote: » Interesting figures from the 2018 GAA annual report.
rm75 wrote: » Embarassing thread that the mods should close. Congratulations to the greatest team of all all time on their historic achievement. Truly an honour to have witnessed them achieve it.
rm75 wrote: » You have no points. You've simply identified one factor and tried to exhaggerate its impact while ignoring all other factors. You are simply trying to undermine the achievments of a truly exceptional team. Why demean myself by engaging with such a bitter person. I pity you actually, being so consumed by hatred.
ClanofLams wrote: » In fairness you have been the most reasonable Dublin poster on this topic and acknowledged advantages. Most non Dublin posters have acknowledged this team and the quality of players they have. Certainly Cluxton McCaffrey Fenton etc are contenders for the greatest footballers of all time. Happy to give Gavin credit also, he’s clearly an excellent manager. But the impact of funding cant be ignored and the disparity started well before 2007. Any time it has been examined it has been clearly shown funding is a significant factor that affects outcomes. That is the purpose of funding. There is no reason why GAA should be somehow unique and denying funding as a factor flies in the face of logic. I have no problem with Dublin getting more either, they should it has the largest population so the most kids to target etc. But the discrepancy in funding is ridiculous, Dublin getting thirteen times what Cork get is ludicrous. From a quick look at the 18 figures it seems that figure is now only 6 times what Cork get which is still way too high but a move in the right direction at least I suppose.
RoyalCelt wrote: » I'm winding down already. Didn't go to the Leinster final this year. I used to go to all 4 quarter finals and semis no matter who was involved but haven't the last few years. This year the only championship matches I'll attend in Leinster will be in my home town of navan. I won't pay the costs of travelling. I'll probably attend any qualifier/super 8 matches meath get to though. I'll be going to all league matches but I can see a stage in future where I won't go to any championship matches at all. The days of meath playing a truly amateur Dublin team in Leinster are long gone. That's what made the province what it was. In 2018 the GAA actually tried to address the gap yet Dublin still get 1 million more then meath in development grants. Ye no bother lads we'll get our house in order and should be back beating ye any year now. This is why I'm losing interest. There was a time when our counties were treated as equals by the GAA. Those days are dead.
TrueGael wrote: » Dont look now but the AIG mob are on their way to another bought trophy on their home ground as we speak Another golden generation, gee whizz what a coincidence!!!!!!!
TrueGael wrote: » You are in a Pale bubble if you think any one else (let alone all 31) have Juggernaut backroom teams assembled. The superclubs would be on a par resource wise with any other county If ye had to pay for all those professional coaches as opposed to us doing it, there wouldn't be as much to splurge on the IC setup- thats why it matters- it removes another burden
blanch152 wrote: » Except we have been through this many times already. Funding to get kids to play GAA is not funding directed at a senior inter-county team, so the analogies with other sports are not relevant and the case that the funding led to Dublin success is at best unproven. When you look at the facts that population size and tradition will always mean that Dublin are competitive, then combined with two exceptional groups of Under-21s and one of the greatest managers of all time, you end up with a team that scraped a win in 2011 becoming the greatest of all time. It is as simple as that.
kyote00 wrote: » Given the number of clubs registered in Dublin and Cork, the swing in funding doesnt seem all that bad
kyote00 wrote: » Any idea what Meath did with the ~350k for Games development Anyone know what the team expenese are? Galway has 513k in team expenses (WTF) Longford got 1.5m
ClanofLams wrote: » To repeat I have no problem with that, it’s a good thing but the funding discrepancy is unjustifiable particularly given Dublin are presumably wisely investing some of their commercial income on top of centralised funding. .
ClanofLams wrote: » Dublin spent around three hundred and twenty k on team expenses. Galway had two Leinster hurling finals, two all Ireland hurling semi finals, all Ireland football semi final, hurling final, super 8s. That’s a lot more travel accommodation etc than Dublin required.
kyote00 wrote: » 500k on travel - pull the other one !
ClanofLams wrote: » To be clear I have no idea what team expenses are comprised of. Is it just senior teams or what? Does it include manager ‘expenses’ yeah? I was just pointing out (on the basis of it being senior teams only) that Galway hurlers reached the All Ireland final (having two replays en route) and the footballers the semi final whereas Dublin were out of the hurling at Leinster championship stage the gap doesn’t seem that ridiculous as Dublin must incur very little expense for games in Croker.
kyote00 wrote: » But 500k seems excessive.... I wonder did they fly up to some matches? Or did they play in New York?
odyssey06 wrote: All match expenses such as travel and accomodation are reimbursed by GAA for All Ireland series games. No county should be out of pocket for them.
