Hobosan wrote: » So remember that time a while back when I was incredulous of your optimistic belief that the FBI would put Epstein away. And you cited my lack of understanding of the US justice system to both justify your beliefs and rubbish my own. I hope you can understand my incredulity now.
Saige Putrid Rainfall wrote: » {10-08-2019, 18:52} Guaranteed the cameras will have malfunctioned.
Mangofrozo wrote: » Interesting article in the Irish Times about how a ring of women helped him recruit teenage girls.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/how-a-ring-of-women-allegedly-recruited-girls-for-jeffrey-epstein-1.4002409
Matt Barrett wrote: » That's how pimps operate.
Mangofrozo wrote: » Yea the women were pumps essentially.
Nolan Savory Warden wrote: » This (with about 20thanks from 20days ago) prediciton was as correct as clockwork. Two cameras 'malfunctioned' outside the cell, oh what a curious coincidence indeed.
Matt Barrett wrote: » Pimps get their women to recruit. It's how they operate. In this case children.
Mangofrozo wrote: » By the sounds of it the women were perfectly happy to do the recruiting, they knew exactly what they were doing, for their own self interest. Believe it or not women can also be the perpetrators, not just victims.
ceadaoin. wrote: » Many of them will have been groomed to do this from when they were teenagers. Its how it works. It's a win win for the ringleaders - a constant supply of new victims and also previous victims now involved so that they will be less likely to spill the beans given that they will also be implicated.
Mangofrozo wrote: » And sometimes women are perfectly happy to exploit other women and need no "grooming". And sometimes the ones being "lured" are perfectly happy with the arrangement, they don't see it as a big deal to be well compensated in exchange for sexual favours.
Matt Barrett wrote: » And children say the darndest things. We're talking about children.
Mangofrozo wrote: » I'm talking about 16 year olds and up.
batgoat wrote: » Some of the victims were as young as 8 years of age..
Mangofrozo wrote: » I'm not talking about them, as I pointed out above.
Mangofrozo wrote: » I'm not talking about them, as I pointed out above. People don't have a hive mind. Some people are groomed, others enter into an arrangement that suits them of their own free will and some people act as the the "pimp" of their own free will and deserve the full punishment of the law.
hetuzozaho wrote: » Are you talking about a girl in particular?
Matt Barrett wrote: » Anyone who lured or groomed children deserves to feel the full weight of the law. Is anyone saying otherwise? Are you trying to wedge in victim blaming? There will be people who get lured in young and continued in the life, that's what happens in prostitution. The older ones bring in younger ones. Epstein trafficked in children.
Mangofrozo wrote: » There seems to be some people who think the women who groomed girls don't deserve the full punishment of the law.
Mangofrozo wrote: » Exhibit A It's amazing to witness how an ideology can infect a person's outlook. "Women are always the victims, men are always the perpetrators".
Matt Barrett wrote: » Seems more like explaining how it happens than saying any adults shouldn't face charges.
Tony EH wrote: » ^ What's Ghislaine Maxwell's excuse then?
Mangofrozo wrote: » It's an assumption that the women acting as pimps for Epstein were under some form of sinister coercion, there is no evidence whatsoever that that is the case.
Eric Cartman wrote: » its always time and time again, especially where sex crimes are a thing, any woman involved couldnt possibly be a co-conspirator and is definitely doing under force from some evil man....
