[Deleted User] wrote: » Why does god need a spaceship?
TheValeyard wrote: » This never happened. Ever.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Correct. The quote was “what does God need with a starship”. The following lines were never said either or are quoted incorrectly; “Luke, I am your father” “Beam me up Scotty” “Me Tarzan, you Jane” “We’re going to need a bigger boat” Bit off topic but interesting.
one world order wrote: » If you have alternative evidence then feel free to share. We already have God's message in the bible that mentions the circle of the earth and God hangs earth on nothing. This was 2,000 years ago ever before it was proven the earth was round or it hangs in space.
joe40 wrote: » https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=#&ved=2ahUKEwiQhZWO_KrkAhUUtnEKHS-1D10QwqsBMAF6BAgGEAo&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov Don't know about the others but the last quote was said.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » God is the size of the universe? How would you know that god has a size at all? I don’t expect it to be “proven definitively”. I don’t even expect believers to propose falsifiable gods. But like everything else, I’ll reserve judgment until there’s evidence. No evidence, no consideration beyond speculation. Simple as that.
Ariana Squeaking Supper wrote: » Surely it makes sense that with all the complexity we are finding in the universe that we have gone beyond the idea of a random bang theory. It points to a Creator and if it was created, then so were we.
endacl wrote: » If you’d never heard of the concept of a ‘creator’, you’d never independently come up with the notion.
Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: » I'm not religious but I always find it slightly fascinating how simplistic the thinking of some science worshipers and atheists is. Life is a mystery. Science is a tool. Our current scientific model is one language of many, not THE language. These discussions are, and will always be, philosophical. Embrace the mystery.
one world order wrote: » God has revealed himself several times in the past, such as when he created the Jewish people. Even today there have being people with a terminal illness that have had an encounter with Jesus Christ, after which they find themselves cured. I think we were all born with the knowledge in our hearts that there is a God, but some have chosen to suppress it. Given that the mass produced mainstream media has sought to move us to an atheist society, this has resulted in a lot of people being deceived by those who work behind the scenes at the top.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Oh right. Science puts itself at such a disadvantage by having such high standards of evidence by comparison to religion. You must believe all the gods and religious claims if you’re willing to accept that evidence. I’ll just hold on for testable evidence. If it comes then fair enough, that’s the time to take it seriously. If it doesn’t come then it’s just like everything else in the category of interesting fantasies and ideas. That’s ok by the way. No harm fanaticising about gods. But it’s wrong to twist interpretation of reality to pretend there’s good evidence for gods. Lowering the standard of evidence for gods isn’t the way to go though. If you lower the standards of evidence foreverything then you’d believe loads of things and you’d be in big trouble.
one world order wrote: » Science has been unable to disprove the existence of a creator
abff wrote: » No, but common sense does.
one world order wrote: » Science has been unable to disprove the existence of a creator and the more science has been evolving the more it points to the existence of the spiritual world. I believe in one God and that he sent his only son into this world for forgiveness of our sins. So when you take your last breath in this world and your spirit leaves your body, will you still be asking for testable evidence on your day of judgement?
one world order wrote: » As in your own personal suppression of the existence of God?
Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: » You can't really be this naive.
Midster wrote: » Actually you couldn’t be more wrong, somebody in the very earliest part of human history began worship.
abff wrote: » I can't suppress something that doesn't exist.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Is it sciences job to disprove gods before gods provide evidence of themselves. Until then is it fair to consider it anything more than fantasy? By failing to disprove gods, they’re in the same category as everything else that can’t be tested; fairies, goblins, unicorns etc. Now if here were testable evidence of gods and the evidence failed to be disproved, then you’d be on to something. But that’s not how the burden of proof works. If you say there are gods then it’s on you to provide sufficient evidence. I’m sure you know that’s how it works.
NIMAN wrote: » Alternate universes have been discovered? First I heard.
one world order wrote: » It has already been proven Jesus Christ existed, will you choose to reject that as well? If you look at the bible, it had 40 different authors between the Old and New Testament and it all points towards Christ. It has a chapter on the book of revelations and unfortunately it appears to be accurate when you look at the direction the world is heading in today. There is so much evidence all around you that you choose to reject, instead waiting for some scientist to tell you that God has existed all along, which will be too late for your soul.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Why bother going to a pop science forum to discuss gods? The burden of proof is on anyone who claims gods exist. They don’t have to meet that burden in the religious forums but surely they understand that they will need to have some good evidence in a science forum. Shoehorning gods onto things we don’t understand is as old as things we don’t understand. Not understanding things isn’t evidence for gods, though some people mistake it for evidence.
Ariana Squeaking Supper wrote: » So what's your alternative? Where's your proof?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » What’s my alternative to what? My alternative to making up explanations for things I don’t understand is to try to find out the actual explanations. I don’t make the claim that god/gods exist so I don’t really need to provide evidence of their existence. Do you claim god/gods exist?
Ariana Squeaking Supper wrote: » You're being deliberately obtuse. You know exactly what my question meant. In case you didn't..... You don't believe in a Creator. So how did everything get here?
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » There's plenty of wiggle room in quantum mechanics The anthropic principle could be viewed as - the universe only exists because we are here to observe it. - the universe appears fine tuned for life because if it wasn't we couldn't be here to see it. Ok so if there wasn’t a Big Bang (according to quantum science) And it wasn’t created in just 7 short days by the god in the Christian holy bible. There is always room for a coincidental existence, that being that all the building blocks of life just happened to be here on earth in the right place at the right time billions of years ago. Except for, as any good police investigator will tell you. There is no such thing as coincidence, but and yet, in our case (our solar system, earth itself, evolution of human kind etc) there has been so many. 1st) We mastered fire and learnt how to burn things 2nd) We learnt by burning things we could also cook meat and make it a lot more tasty, and most importantly boil water. Fast forward >>>>>>> 3rd) We learnt the steam made by boiling water could be pressurized which could be used in fact to make enormous things move. 4th) We learnt also by using the same technique we could create huge amounts of electricity 5th) We learnt by burning fossil fuels we cause pollution. 6th) First nuclear bomb goes off 7th) We learnt we could use nuclear power to boil water, make steam and create electric. 8th) We begin pegging back on our air polluting ways 9th) Solar panels and wind turbines come into effect. 10) Creating new tech all the time, that’s better and cleaner for the environment, attempting to repair the damage previous human steps had made through 1 to 10. By using coal and fossil fuels, we accelerated the expansion of trade, business, infrastructure, social interactions, and most importantly, our own knowledge and technology. Although we caused a lot of damage by doing that, if we hadn't we would still be riding horses to work at the bread mill. Also thanks to our advancement, we are now inventing new green tech, which is something we could have only ever done by burning the fossil fuel in the first place.
Midster wrote: » Also thanks to our advancement, we are now inventing new green tech, which is something we could have only ever done by burning the fossil fuel in the first place.
