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Is Mrs Doubtfire problematic?

[Deleted User]

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

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Spleerbun

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Jesus lads.

I don't know how some people manage to leave the house in the morning, if the word 'cis' is this upsetting to you. What exactly are you so afraid of?

Why have you quoted me there, I never mentioned "cis" anything?

You also cropped my post unnecessarily, all I said to be fair was that men dressing as women is a pet peeve of mine and acknowledged that it could well be a case of me being narrow minded. Everyone has pet peeves, some more rational than others I'm sure, but as I said I find it very weird

RobbingBandit

I fear nothing more than fear itself

Also didn't mention cis myself

I am LORDE YAYAYA

FluffyTowel

Ah - it was such a great film. Robin Williams would break your heart with his sad faces, but crack you up with his everything else. Good times before this cis nonsense.

endacl

Deleted User wrote: »

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

If we put you in charge of that, would it keep you too busy to start stupid threads like this one?

[Deleted User]

endacl wrote: »

If we put you in charge of that, would it keep you too busy to start stupid threads like this one?

Stupid is as stupid does numb nuts

Wheety

Did the son react with violence?

[Deleted User]

Wheety wrote: »

Did the son react with violence?

He attacked Mrs Doubtfire with a tennis racket, and violent words

shutup

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

If you used the term 'normal' to differentiate between gay people and straight people, most people would regard you (and those who thanked your post) as a homophobic bigot.

Your post makes no sense because he didn’t use the term “normal” to differentiate between gay people and normal people, I mean straight people.

El_Duderino 09

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

No, but that's the road we're heading down with all the lunacy these days.

If that's the persecution fantasy you enjoy role-playing, have at it. If you identify as a victim, then I respect your right to feel that way.

mikeym

I wouldnt worry about Mrs Doubtfire its an old movie.

Brendan O'Carroll must have took a page from Robin Williams book.

Yer Da sells Avon

shutup wrote: »

Your post makes no sense because he didn’t use the term “normal” to differentiate between gay people and normal people, I mean straight people.

Try reading it again.

KAGY

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stupid is as stupid does numb nuts

Are you assuming zhe has testicles! I thought a womxn like you would be more considerate of peoples gender or lack thereof

CrankyHaus

Seems a good time to throw this up.

shutup

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Try reading it again.

Apologies if I’m missing something but it seems to me (in my sleepy state) that mrs g has not referred to gays as being abnormal.
Im happy to be proven wrong if you can quote his/her post.
So you just said something along the lines of, if you said such and such, which you didn’t actually say, but if you did, you would be considered a homophobic bigot.

Yer Da sells Avon

shutup wrote: »

Apologies if I’m missing something

The ability to read.

shutup

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

The ability to read.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Why can’t you just quote the bigotry for me and make it easy for someone who lacks the ability to read?

Sardonicat

So, OP, what do you feel about 'Tootsie'?

Yer Da sells Avon

shutup wrote: »

I haven’t read the entire thread. Why can’t you just quote the bigotry for me and make it easy for someone who lacks the ability to read?

These people might be more qualified to help you:

https://www.nala.ie/

ligerdub

Funnily enough I was only thinking about one aspect of this film which probably wouldn't pass the speech police numpties these days.

It was in the phone application section where Williams is doing an impression of an immigrant who can't speak English, which obviously doesn't go down well with the mother. That probably would be considered racist now or some rubbish like that!

What I had forgotten about that section was something even more triggering. Williams speaks about the sex of the children, and that he couldn't look after the boy because she (impersonating a woman) used to be a man. Again the mother was not keen on that. Transphobe!

Mad_maxx

Unlike Mrs doubtfire ( God be good to Robin Williams), you know what isn't funny?

That thousands of tax euro goes into paying some academic to fill young minds with the sh1te put to page in the OP

Bobby Baccala

Am I the only cúnt that doesn't know what cis means

OleRodrigo

Human evolution has been trundling along for tens, hundreds of thousands of years...nothing much happening...and then BOOM...at the start of the 21st century it branches out into 58 different genders.

Last time something like this happened was the Cambrian explosion, 500 million years ago. But it took 30 million years to gather pace.

Mother nature is pretty amazing.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

biko wrote: »

It was a great film, and still is, no matter what the weirdos say.

Steady on, it was fine. Nothing more.

shutup

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

These people might be more qualified to help you:

https://www.nala.ie/

Hilarious but just to be clear. You are unable to find and quote any bigoted comments?

JupiterKid

Its blatantly obvious that this is a trollish thread intended to goad a reaction...

...and judging by all the posts, it worked.

banie01

If the OP thinks that Mrs Doubtfire could be problematic...

They will blow a gasket if they rewatch Ace Ventura :P

The rush to infer an "ism" or insult where none is implied, is tiresome.
Have we learned nothing from the movements of new cultural norms and their drive to edit art and history?

Are we to support a new iconoclasm?
But rather than religious imagery, we know devalue, debase and destroy anything that might be "offensive"?

El_Duderino 09

ligerdub wrote: »

Funnily enough I was only thinking about one aspect of this film which probably wouldn't pass the speech police numpties these days.

Thought police numpties. Groan

I can't understand the desire to cast yourself as the oppressed minority victim. This thread shows you're in the overwhelming majority by not having a problem with the film.

Earlier a poster role played a society where people are thrown in prison if they font agree with transgenderism.

The desire to pretend to be oppressed and outnumbered is interesting though. A couple of posters expressed a problem with the film and you maintain the victim stance in spite of the vast majority saying they're fine with it. It comes down to throwing a hissy fit because some, somewhere holds a different opinion you.

That's a bit fragile, isn't it?

Greyfox

JupiterKid wrote: »

Its blatantly obvious that this is a trollish thread intended to goad a reaction...

To be honest there's people out there somewhere who believe what the op said and these people wherever they live are terrible people

mikhail

JupiterKid wrote: »

Its blatantly obvious that this is a trollish thread intended to goad a reaction...

...and judging by all the posts, it worked.

Yeah, how anyone can take the "penis" line near the end of the OP seriously, I don't know. It's pathetic trolling, and I have added him or her to my ignore list. It's amazing how much more civilised this place gets when you lock the loons, cranks and trolls away.

HorrorScope

Bobby Baccala wrote: »

Am I the only cúnt that doesn't know what cis means

You don't need to know what it means because only the ***** who follow this self ID bollixology use it.