hawley wrote: » I looked at Shane's twitter account and one of his last tweets is wishing Kilkenny the best of luck in the final. I don't see any tweets where he is whinging.
bruschi wrote: » If anything is to come out of the final Sunday and the completely over the top reaction from Cody, former players and a large amount of supporters, is that James Owens will be getting the Barry Kelly treatment from now on and any game he is down to ref them in, this will be brought up endlessly prior, during and after the game. If there is one thing they do well at other than hurling, is holding endless grudges and using something from the past that has no relevance whatsoever but bring it up anyway to muddy the waters.
Utopia Parkway wrote: » Bookmakers odds for next year's championship. Tipp. - 7/2 Limerick. - 7/2 Galway. - 5/1 Kilkenny. - 11/2 Cork. - 6/1 Clare. - 12/1 Wexford. - 16/1 Dublin. - 25/1 Waterford.- 25/1 500/1 Bar ..
corner back 2 wrote: » Surely how a ref treats similar incidents in 2 games a month apart is valid analysis? BTW I have no arguments with the red card. But we have seen worse let go and lesser offences penalised with red so if you cant understand why people are questioning it I dont know why. People are bitterly disappointed after losing a final as I am sure you would be and all supporters will stand up for their own county and they dont need to apologise to anyone for that.
RMAOK wrote: » Anyone know what tipp's odds for 2019 were just after limerick win the all-ireland in 2018?
Bonniedog wrote: » Hogan staying on would have made it closer, but Tipp were already getting on top and dominated the individual battles after, rather than depending on free space.
Bonniedog wrote: » Odds were very similar and in same order if you swap Tipp and Galway. Tipp were 5/1 and Galway 7/2.
Bonniedog wrote: » It was rather pathetic to see the lower stands half empty for the rain on Sunday, and thousands of people leaving the Hill. I was there for the Dublin/Kerry final played in absolute torrential downpour and no-one moved. Obviously a lot of "dry weather" supporters got tickets. (Apologies, meant to post that in tickets thread.)
letsseehere14 wrote: » Reading this and the KK forum since Sunday has been great entertainment. I have to believe half the posters are taking the mick because otherwise I weep for some of the opinions I read. Some have said the red card and ref have taken away from Tipperarys win and itll come with an * beside it in the history books, it wont. If anything the past few days have soured many peopless admiration for many of the great KK players of the last 20 years. Shefflin, Tyrrell, Brennan, Larkin all making fools of themselves on RTE and twitter. Tyrrell the worst surrounded by his peers and every other analyst saying it like it is, him with two fingers in his ears. Kilkenny are not used to losing matches like this. And this generation are only used to them winning, usually winning well. Breath it in, this is where Kilkenny are now. Back in the pack with the rest of us. It was a certain red. Clear intent there. Barretts and Fordes warranted yellows. Reds in their cases would have been a joke. Overall the ref had a really good match. Tipp had started to turn the tide and even in the first 20 were trying to use the ball in a more intelligent way the KK. They were always going to win that game. KK had too many passengers, even Hogan had he stayed on would have been brought aside after 45 mins. Mullen was not fit, and a few others along side him. Fennelly was curtailed and Walter Walsh looked limited. They would not have lived with Tipp in the second half, against the wind even 15 v 15. Best team won and well done to Tipp. I wouldnt take the score too harshly either. Its something Tipp have done to teams all the time. Sunday was KKs turn. They have but big point wins over practically everyone in recent history. Waterford 2016 by 21, 2019 by 18 Clare 2019 by 13 Cork 2014 by 10, 2016 by 9 Limerick 2015 by 16 Galway 2014 by 9 Dublin 2017 by 22 Wexford 2010 by 14 and now KK by 14 Its something they do, but they dont usually keep those kind of performances up. The group is all close now, Limerick, Tipp, Galway, Cork, Kilkenny at the front I think (assuming Galway get their act together and Cork make gains with the younger players coming through), Wexford, Clare, Waterford closing in. But it is kind of disheartening that we still cant break the big 3s hold. This decade we had Clare, Galway and ourselves win All Irelands, but still 50% of Leinster titles went to KK, 70% of Munsters went to Tipp and Cork and 70% of All Ireland went to two of the big 3. Kilkennys dominance in Leinster might be on the wane for the next few years, but Munster remains a Cork/Tipp battle ground. Clare have none since 1998, Waterford since 2010. They won 7 of 10 Munster from 00 to 09 and 7 of 10 from 2010 to 2019. Tipp and Cork have also won 7 of the last 10 All Irelands won by Munster Teams. Since the Golden age 1994-1998, ended with Offaly, 21 years ago, only Clare 2013, Galway 2017, Limerick 2018 have managed All Irelands, 3 in 21 years. In the same period before the golden age, Offaly, Galway, Limerick managed to win 6. Arguably things have gotten worse. Breaking that tradition is still proving hard for the rest of us.
Tombo2001 wrote: » Since you are on the subject - the Dublin Cork womens final was on that same year - and if I recall rightly the Dublin fans had no problem on that occasion moving to the back of the stand when a shower hit...Were they dry weather supporters?
Tombo2001 wrote: » The winner is the winner. However when decisions are made that potentially change the outcome - then people will remember that.
Mantis Toboggan wrote: » People will remember Richie Hogan trying to break Barrett's jaw with an elbow and getting sent off for it. They'll also remember kilkenny players giving up with 30 minutes left and loosing by 14 points. Pity that Hogan's cowardly act will be remembered more than the 3.25 that tipp scored.
letsseehere14 wrote: » Shefflin, Tyrrell, Brennan, Larkin all making fools of themselves on RTE and twitter. Tyrrell the worst surrounded by his peers and every other analyst saying it like it is, him with two fingers in his ears. Kilkenny are not used to losing matches like this. And this generation are only used to them winning, usually winning well. Breath it in, this is where Kilkenny are now. Back in the pack with the rest of us. It was a certain red. Clear intent there. Barretts and Fordes warranted yellows. Reds in their cases would have been a joke.Tipp had started to turn the tide and even in the first 20 were trying to use the b Overall the ref had a really good match. .
Tombo2001 wrote: » The winner is the winner. However when decisions are made that potentially change the outcome - then people will remember that. The sideline cut that Limerick took in the last minute of the semi-final would be similar. Letter of the law - that should have been a 65; and you know and I know that Limerick would have had a fair strong chance in a replay, and fair chance of beating Tipp if they met them in a final.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » Thank you for ensuring that, in spite of all that has been said here, it was not one of our lads who contributed the most moronic, spiteful, nugatory pile of dung to the thread. Thanks, really. Thanks.
adrian522 wrote: » The GAA forum has really gone to sh!t if that's the standards of posting that we are reduced to. Talk of trying to break Barrett's jaw is just utterly ridiculous and contemptible.
the_pen_turner wrote: » what s wrong with that post. if factually correct . this match and all ireland will be remembered because of what ritchy hogan did not for the great hurling that tipp did to win.
People will remember Richie Hogan trying to break Barrett's jaw
Lefty Bicek wrote: » Factually correct, you say ? You'll have evidence for this statement, then... Quite a serious allegation to make on a public platform. Disgusting, actually.
the_pen_turner wrote: » it was broadcast live on tv with 80k people watching it. plenty of people saw it live and seen the replays of it later. im not saying he tried to break his jaw but there is definite intent to hurt. its as plain as day .
