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Weatherspoons are buying Carbon on Eglington Street

https://galwaydaily.com/business/carbon-nightclub-set-to-become-latest-wetherspoons-in-ireland/

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Czhornet

cfeeneyinterior

spurshero wrote: »

My point was the person that is not bothered about having to pay 10 euro plus for a g and t etc in quay street is not going to be attracted to eglington street for a 2.50 pint . Price obviously doesn’t bother them . Reality is the price of a pint bothers some not others . I’m not saying anything about issues with trouble etc

The difference will be that the unbothered person wlll then have a choice to go to somewhere else for much more reasonable drinks and they might bother then. If they make it a nice spot people will go. The tourist spots in the Latin quarter will be fine

spurshero

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

spurshero wrote: »

The people that drink in Latin quarter and pay some of the prices that they are paying would be a totally different clientele then will be in Witherspoon’s .,

The LQ owners will likely be well happy to have fewer security issues floating in their neighbourhood. Except for the one who also owns Blakes, and will therefore have those issues arriving in his neighbourhood.

Fewer security issues? Please elaborate? I’m sensing a racist undertone, hopefully I’m wrong

My point was the person that is not bothered about having to pay 10 euro plus for a g and t etc in quay street is not going to be attracted to eglington street for a 2.50 pint . Price obviously doesn’t bother them . Reality is the price of a pint bothers some not others . I’m not saying anything about issues with trouble etc

cfeeneyinterior

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Wouldn't put this as racist

Cheap alcohol attracts alcoholics and rough people, it's that simple

If they have all moved from separate pubs around Galway into one Mega pub this may lead to issues, but could also alleviate issues for LQ bars also

They will have door staff to sort out the crowd when they open. Usual stuff. They will do really well with students during the week and if the place is done up nice they will attract everybody else at the weekend. Simples.

Mearings

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Wouldn't put this as racist

Cheap alcohol attracts alcoholics and rough people, it's that simple

If they have all moved from separate pubs around Galway into one Mega pub this may lead to issues, but could also alleviate issues for LQ bars also

A drunk tank?

witnessrenegade

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Fewer security issues? Please elaborate? I’m sensing a racist undertone, hopefully I’m wrong

Wouldn't put this as racist

Cheap alcohol attracts alcoholics and rough people, it's that simple

If they have all moved from separate pubs around Galway into one Mega pub this may lead to issues, but could also alleviate issues for LQ bars also

Whereisgalway

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

spurshero wrote: »

The people that drink in Latin quarter and pay some of the prices that they are paying would be a totally different clientele then will be in Witherspoon’s .,

The LQ owners will likely be well happy to have fewer security issues floating in their neighbourhood. Except for the one who also owns Blakes, and will therefore have those issues arriving in his neighbourhood.

Fewer security issues? Please elaborate? I’m sensing a racist undertone, hopefully I’m wrong

Mrs OBumble

spurshero wrote: »

The people that drink in Latin quarter and pay some of the prices that they are paying would be a totally different clientele then will be in Witherspoon’s .,

Indeed. The people most likely to be objecting are certain pubs in Eyre Square and Woodquay. The LQ owners will likely be well happy to have fewer security issues floating in their neighbourhood. Except for the one who also owns Blakes, and will therefore have those issues arriving in his neighbourhood.

AwaitYourReply

spurshero wrote: »

The people that drink in Latin quarter and pay some of the prices that they are paying would be a totally different clientele then will be in Witherspoon’s .,

Yeah this could be the case alright. That said, there may be some of those punters also happy at the idea of having a cheaper option in this part of town. If they end up forking out far less on a night out somewhere like Wetherspoons, they may choose to go out again on another night of the week! Others may choose to start their night in Wetherspoons and then move on to other pubs later in the day/evening. A more widespread choice of different types of bar/club venues that serve different tastes along with more competition in prices is no bad thing at all. It makes going out a more enjoyable experience if each pub/club offers something unique.

spurshero

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Can see the Latin quarter having serious objections and delaying everything about this from renovations to opening hours

The people that drink in Latin quarter and pay some of the prices that they are paying would be a totally different clientele then will be in Witherspoon’s .,

AwaitYourReply

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Can see the Latin quarter having serious objections and delaying everything about this from renovations to opening hours

Interesting point and I'm sure that there will always be some planning issues or businesses who may not welcome such competition in their own backyard.

I understand that Wetherspoons had once acquired a former Bank premises in Douglas Village in Cork and had intended opening a pub once the site in question was re-developed. I believe that there were planning issues associated with their Douglas site in Cork and as far as I know the whole plan was aborted altogether. Not sure if they subsequently sold the property concerned or; if Wetherspoons are still actively plan on opening anywhere else in the Cork region following the setback with the property in Douglas. Meanwhile their Cork City Centre premises called The Linen Weaver on Paul Street seems to be doing alright.

GSF

Whereisgalway

Can see the Latin quarter having serious objections and delaying everything about this from renovations to opening hours

Mearings

Guinness was 'real ale' untill mid 60s. Cookes & The Western, Prospect Hill were 2 of the last pubs to sell unpressurised draught stout.

Lewis_Benson

Storm 10 wrote: »

I was in the House Hotel last Saturday night and they were serving pints in non branded glasses, the pint was sh..e and the head was gone after two sips so I upped and left after the one horrible tasting Carlsberg, why don't they serve pints in the branded glasses that hold the head and taste better and yeah it was 1 euro dearer.

Nothing to do with the glass ted.
Real ale, depending on the person who poured it, does not have a head like youd be used toning say, a pint of Guinness.

Often there is a sparkler attached to the tap to create more of a head.
That looks like a London pint

If that was northern England it would be sent back, they prefer a creamier hendon their pints.

AwaitYourReply

finbarrk wrote: »

I was in the Silver Penny in Dublin last week. Beer was good value, €2.95 for a pint of John Smiths. I think Carlsberg was €3.30. The food service is quick also, pizza was fine.

Thanks for latest example of prices in Dublin. You would find it difficult to get a Pint of Carlsberg in a Dublin City bar for anywhere near €3.30 I suspect. Only place I can think of that is said to be cheap would probably be Dicey's Garden in Russell Court Hotel on Harcourt Street in Dublin although; maybe things have changed since last year? I certainly would NOT fork out for a pint in the Temple Bar area given the prices charged especially at certain times of the day!

finbarrk

I was in the Silver Penny in Dublin last week. Beer was good value, €2.95 for a pint of John Smiths. I think Carlsberg was €3.30. The food service is quick also, pizza was fine.

AwaitYourReply

Andrew00 wrote: »

F*ck that I won't be going there if they don't show the racing. Lots will agree with me

Well I saw Wimbledon Tennis showing on BBC TV tv last week in Wetherspoon's The Bridge House pub in Belfast city centre.

Given that some Racing coverage is currently broadcast on free-to-air TV channels such as: Virgin Media One, ITV1/ITV4 and RTÉ TV, I would think it would be possible for Wetherspoon's to put it on if their customers requested to view it like other sports shown on free-to-air television.

I would say that all other racing coverage that is broadcast exclusively on subscription-based channels like: Sky Sports Racing or Racing TV channel then you are best to go to another pub and pay the extra for your pint as it will go towards the extra costs that the bar will incur in showcasing premium sports coverage as Sky charges quite a lot for Public Bars to screen such services.

I myself would not wanna have to pay much more for my pint just for premium sports such as: racing exclusively shown on Sky Sports Racing or Racing TV and I'd say there are plenty of customers who would favour lower prices most of the time. If the price difference was only a few cents, I'd say one thing but it's not. That said, I welcome competition and think there is always a place for businesses offering different things for everyone.

Variety, choice and competition is a good thing and should lift most well-run businesses!

AwaitYourReply

Next time I am spending leisure time in Dublin City, I must check out "The Silver Penny" which has just opened on Lower Abbey Street as up to now the properties in Dublin were located in the suburbs of Dún Laoghaire, Swords, Blackrock and Blanchardstown. Meanwhile I understand that another Dublin City Centre property on Camden Street is also set to open next year and will be called: Keavan’s Port Hotel which will be a €20m 'superpub'/89-bedroom hotel project due to open early in 2020.

They also opened a premises called The Tullow Gate in Carlow recently.

Also, a site has been acquired by Wetherspoons in Waterford City but no further details have been announced regarding on-site date as of yet.

Following the Galway City acquisition of Carbon/GPO Nightclub on Eglinton Street, Wetherspoons seems to be establishing an increasing presence in the Irish pub landscape.

Pubs across Ireland need to offer punters much better value as otherwise; UK pub chains like Wetherspoons will hit their bottom line. When I see some of the prices charged for a pint of lager in our cities, it not hard to understand why they are quieter and although; there are many factors responsible for the drop-off in trade over the past 15-20years, high prices in the bar trade here is also one of the key factors driving many punters to use Off-Licence, Supermarkets etc; rather than consume in their local pub.
Wetherspoons in Belfast seemed quite busy most evenings I was around with some repeat business.

Sources:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/jd-wetherspoon-eyes-further-irish-growth-as-it-readies-seventh-pub-opening-930128.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/pub-group-jd-wetherspoon-ramps-up-irish-growth-with-galway-acquisition-937411.html

the whole year inn

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Wetherspoons Pub, The Bridge House in Belfast would only accept an order for Food if you did one of those things namely (i) Use the Wetherspoon App. (App. Store or Google Play according to their website) to place your order on a smartphone/android mobile handset Or; (ii) Quote the Table Number of where you will be sitting to the Bartender behind the bar counter so that the food can then be dispatched to this point shortly thereafter. I was able to order my food by giving a table number & paying up at the bar each time and I had no problems in The Bridge House pub in Belfast city centre. You can order/pay for your drinks up at the bar without the same restrictions. I found it to be an efficient service as I ordered Food and/or Drinks several times while on holidays in Belfast recently.

Yea, the Wetherspoons I was in you could pay at the bar aswell , or use the app, we used the app .

AwaitYourReply

the whole year inn wrote: »

They also have an app and can order food and beers from it and get it ordered to your table.Very handy.

Wetherspoons Pub, The Bridge House in Belfast would only accept an order for Food if you did one of those things namely (i) Use the Wetherspoon App. (App. Store or Google Play according to their website) to place your order on a smartphone/android mobile handset Or; (ii) Quote the Table Number of where you will be sitting to the Bartender behind the bar counter so that the food can then be dispatched to this point shortly thereafter. I was able to order my food by giving a table number & paying up at the bar each time and I had no problems in The Bridge House pub in Belfast city centre. You can order/pay for your drinks up at the bar without the same restrictions. I found it to be an efficient service as I ordered Food and/or Drinks several times while on holidays in Belfast recently.

the whole year inn

They also have an app and can order food and beers from it and get it ordered to your table.Very handy.

youngrun

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

I have heard that some establishments are getting out of the nightclub sector and while some will close and/or be put up for sale, others may opt to focus on late night bar without nightclub/dancefloor element. Apparently one of the main factors nightclubs have become such a high insurance risk seems to be due to the high cost of claims causing premiums to rise significantly. Unlike the other places mentioned, I do not believe Wetherspoons will be running a nightclub as part of their offering. I've been to two different JD Wetherspoons establishments and neither of the two concerned seemed to provide a dancefloor/nightclub. They seem to focus on more economically priced food options and lower priced beers/ales. Another thing I noticed is that their staff seem to be kept on their toes the whole time as these places are fairly busy most of the day/night.

Incidentally, another new Wetherspoons Pub has been due to open in Dublin City Centre called The Silver Penny on Lower Abbey Street. See below news article on the new Dublin pub opening.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/inside-brand-new-jd-wetherspoons-17796066

Would agree, Wetherspoons more standard food and drink in a quietish atmosphere, definitely a demand there and they are good at what they do

AwaitYourReply

Stone wrote: »

Honestly I am looking forward to a Wetherspoon's in Galway ....
They have lovely ale's (and other beers) - not all that fizzy 'supermarket stuff' you get around in yer pubs - and the prize point is sound. I realize there are pubs in Galway that serve good beer and ales - but the prices are quite high (not to mention places that charge through the nose for bog standard Guinness/Heineken/etc.).

Also Wetherspoon's usually have a quite palatable decor and ambience .... I say "bring it on" - it can only benefit the Galway pub scene

I would have to concur. Even if a punter does not enjoy the ambience or atmosphere of Wetherspoons, I still think it is good to provide more choice of venue and a more competitive price-point as it has become quite expensive to have a few scoops in our towns/cities. With one establishment already closed down that used sell beers at low prices, Galway needs other establishments to serve this niche. There should be room for economy, mid-range & higher price-points as different Pubs/Bars/Café/Restaurants all need to identify their own unique selling points which gives customers more choice. Hopefully it will have a positive rather than a negative effect to the rest of the Galway social scene.

AwaitYourReply

spurshero wrote: »

Would insurance not be as dear for Witherspoon’s as the other places u mention

I have heard that some establishments are getting out of the nightclub sector and while some will close and/or be put up for sale, others may opt to focus on late night bar without nightclub/dancefloor element. Apparently one of the main factors nightclubs have become such a high insurance risk seems to be due to the high cost of claims causing premiums to rise significantly. Unlike the other places mentioned, I do not believe Wetherspoons will be running a nightclub as part of their offering. I've been to two different JD Wetherspoons establishments and neither of the two concerned seemed to provide a dancefloor/nightclub. They seem to focus on more economically priced food options and lower priced beers/ales. Another thing I noticed is that their staff seem to be kept on their toes the whole time as these places are fairly busy most of the day/night.

Incidentally, another new Wetherspoons Pub has been due to open in Dublin City Centre called The Silver Penny on Lower Abbey Street. See below news article on the new Dublin pub opening.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/inside-brand-new-jd-wetherspoons-17796066

Stone

Honestly I am looking forward to a Wetherspoon's in Galway ....
They have lovely ale's (and other beers) - not all that fizzy 'supermarket stuff' you get around in yer pubs - and the prize point is sound. I realize there are pubs in Galway that serve good beer and ales - but the prices are quite high (not to mention places that charge through the nose for bog standard Guinness/Heineken/etc.).

Also Wetherspoon's usually have a quite palatable decor and ambience .... I say "bring it on" - it can only benefit the Galway pub scene

The high horse brigade

spurshero wrote: »

Would insurance not be as dear for Witherspoon’s as the other places u mention

Most likely the same but having deeper pockets like SuperMacs means better able to stand up and fight

Mrs OBumble

spurshero wrote: »

Would insurance not be as dear for Witherspoon’s as the other places u mention

Bulk purchasing power means probably not .

spurshero

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Joe Don Dante wrote: »

there's an ongoing or upcoming court case regarding the events that took place in the hole in wall so the less/nothing said about it on here the better, but I've no doubt that the opening of weatherpersons will have great effect on the pubs nearby

Oh, I had become aware of the case regarding the public house in question some time ago and wondered if any external factors had played a part although; I fully appreciate that it would be unwise to comment further in a public forum.

In general, I think that the writing is on the wall for various businesses like creches, kids activity/adventure centres etc; due to high increases in public liability insurance so; these types of establishments along with nightclubs have become less & less attractive from an investment perspective. Closed Down: Lillie's Bordello in Dublin, For Sale: Copper Face Jacks in Dublin, Closing Down August 2019 Carbon/GPO nightclub in Galway Coming Soon: J.D. Wetherspoons Public House/Restaurant.

Would insurance not be as dear for Witherspoon’s as the other places u mention

Andrew00

F*ck that I won't be going there if they don't show the racing. Lots will agree with me