Harvey Weinstein wrote: » You can engage in all the mental gymnastics and semantic bullsh1t you like.The number of Foreign Born people in Ireland is over 17% The fact that tens of thousands have been granted Irish nationality is neither here nor there. They're still foreign. Like I said earlier. The fact that you guys lie makes you look extremely dishonest. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see whats happening.
Kimsang wrote: » Why is that relevant? Not being cheeky, serious question. I've never been worried about chemtrailists before. It seems most people agree with her for her views on immigration. I'm happy there are people out there like Gemma having a different opinion to the rest of us, it allows us to sharpen our arguments. Lets say we made it illegal to talk about the things Gemma talks about.. what happens then?
Joeytheparrot wrote: » From a human rights perspective what happens then is that certain peoole and groups will have their human rights to safety and to be free from discrimination vindicated because she wont be spewing her racist homophobic transohobic islamophobic bigoted hate speech.
Harvey Weinstein wrote: » In any case my issue is with immigration in general So I'm against Ireland's demographics changing to a degree where any group outnumbers the native Irish.
FartyBlartFast wrote: » Buddy, that ship sailed centuries ago! I can good as guarantee that you, I, nor anyone else in this thread, are 100% purely descended from the original inhabitants of this island. However, anyone born in Ireland is a native of the country. This includes someone whose family has been here for one generation, and someone whose family has been here for 100 generations.
Harvey Weinstein wrote: » FartyBlartFast wrote: » Buddy, that ship sailed centuries ago! I can good as guarantee that you, I, nor anyone else in this thread, are 100% purely descended from the original inhabitants of this island. However, anyone born in Ireland is a native of the country. This includes someone whose family has been here for one generation, and someone whose family has been here for 100 generations. Then there is no such thing as a country or nation, just geographical regions. Also tell that to white south Africans.
jackboy wrote: » No, in a society without free speech other rights would quickly fall. It is the road to totalitarianism.
FartyBlartFast wrote: » I can't help but notice that you didn't address the point, though. You are not a pure descendant of the original inhabitants of Ireland. Neither am I. Neither are any posters on this thread. Check your genealogy, and you will find you are a mish mash of many different places, which I can also good as guarantee. Following your "Irish replacement" theory through to its natural conclusion, these people cannot replace the original inhabitants of Ireland... Because ours already did it for them, with you and I, and just about anyone living in Ireland being the "replacements". And that is a big reason why the identity of nations are always changing and evolving.
Harvey Weinstein wrote: » As it happens I am a descendent of people who inhabited this Island several thousands of years ago. Got the DNA to prove it. In any case your argument is complete horsesh1t and if you don't think so then I urge you to repeat the same to a Chinese person, Japanese, Austro Aboriginal, Native American etc See how you get on there.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » Being able to shout n****r at people isn’t what free speech is about. That’s hate speech. Keep up.
jackboy wrote: » Who shouted that at who?
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » You want to be able to obviously
jackboy wrote: » Aggression and personal insults to strangers. Don’t worry, as I believe in free speech knock yourself out.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » What's your definition of free speech and how is it being curtailed?
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Place is crawling with Nazis
jackboy wrote: » I never said it was curtailed. I was answering a post which described some of the benefits of curtailing free speech. I was just giving my opinions on the dangers of restricting free speech.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: Hate speech is not the same as free speech. You don’t seem to understand that. I can say your mother did a fvkin piss poor job of raising you and you’re probably inbred. That’s free speech. I can’t and wouldn’t say your mother is a fvkin knacker and she should have been hung upon giving birth to you. That’s hate speech. Big difference.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » Hate speech is not the same as free speech. You don’t seem to understand that. I can say your mother did a fvkin piss poor job of raising you and you’re probably inbred. That’s free speech. I can’t and wouldn’t say your mother is a fvkin knacker and she should have been hung upon giving birth to you. That’s hate speech. Big difference.
irishgrover wrote: » If that's the way you go around talking to people it's probably your mother who needed the parenting skills !!!!
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Free speech isn't being restricted though.
jackboy wrote: » I know the difference between free speech and hate speech. Your just insulting me again claiming things with no evidence.
Larbre34 wrote: » Its 'you're'. I have zero tolerance for these things, especially from you.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » Ample evidence your ma did a piss poor job of raising you. Your post history and relentless bigotry is right there.
jackboy wrote: » More aggression and personal insults.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Or was it free speech?