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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019/2020

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jayo26

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its almost like you are just squalidly squating rent free in a dark corner.

Good dame will you ever learn to use the quote function.

jaykay74

The ignore list function is severely lacking!

yourdeadwright

Its all about context

Fred's love of the like button hasn't gone unnoticed by some Liverpool fan of the forum's on the FEEDBACK THREAD a United fan brought up the fact he wanted the like button removed because its used as a way of people liking posts having a go at other teams and clubs and guess who was the first to like it ,

It was the ultimate irony,

Now I will say the United fan had a point as there is a certain other Poster who Likes everything anti United ,

pjohnson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its all about context

Fred's love of the like button hasn't gone unnoticed by some Liverpool fan of the forum's on the FEEDBACK THREAD a United fan brought up the fact he wanted the like button removed because its used as a way of people liking posts having a go at other teams and clubs and guess who was the first to like it ,

It was the ultimate irony,

Now I will say the United fan had a point as there is a certain other Poster who Likes everything anti United ,

This is the Manchester United thread. I think you are looking for the thread I highlighted in bold if you want to discuss the merits of the thanks button.

yourdeadwright

pjohnson wrote: »

This is the Manchester United thread. I think you are looking for the thread I highlighted in bold if you want to discuss the merits of the thanks button.

PhlegmyMoses

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its all about context

Fred's love of the like button hasn't gone unnoticed by some Liverpool fan of the forum's on the FEEDBACK THREAD a United fan brought up the fact he wanted the like button removed because its used as a way of people liking posts having a go at other teams and clubs and guess who was the first to like it ,

It was the ultimate irony,

Now I will say the United fan had a point as there is a certain other Poster who Likes everything anti United ,

Seriously, have a word with yourself fella. Too much internet tribalism for you

yourdeadwright

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Seriously, have a word with yourself fella. Too much internet tribalism for you

Wow , How can you not see that is exactly what i'm saying ?

People liking anything as long as its negative about a certain club or there fan's ? I think that is Tribalism

Anyway I'm out :cool:

yabadabado

Thank **** for that

pjohnson

yabadabado wrote: »

Thank **** for that

Give it 30mins.

fatherted1969

Bring back bebo!!

Ninthlife

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Bring back bebo!!

You mean Bebe

dave_o_brien

astradave wrote: »

Dave's are great

I would have liked this (and possible others too) but I don't want to be accused of tribalism.

NoviGlitzko

PARlance

Good dame will you ever learn to use the quote function.[/quote]

You have to go to effort to fcuk it up like he does.

dave_o_brien

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I clearly asked if YOU where saying United where now Settling, So again I have not stated any opinion of mine about Maguire .

I have answered that:

dave_o_brien wrote: »

EDIT: To answer your question more directly; No, I don't think that.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its nothing to do with value of the fee or VVD or anyone else

The question was why do they see Maguire as there man NOW when he is the same player as he was last summer who then wasn't deemed good enough ,

The price for him now is slightly higher than last year because of the market so that even's it's self out ,

It comes down to why now is he seen as the CB United need but last year he wasn't

Of course it has something to do with the valuation of other players (such as VVD). It's not the only factor, but it is one of many factors.

It doesn't come down to Maguire being thought of as "there man NOW" (sic); this is your interpretation of things, which is speculative given you know nothing of the situation. It's not as binary as Bad then, Good now. There are a huge number of nuanced arguments that can be presented as to why the decision making process may have changed, but sure look, I'm shouting into a hole because you've left for good, haven't you?!

[Deleted User]

Jesus. What have I stumbled into?

pjohnson

Liam O wrote: »

Jesus. What have I stumbled into?

We have a new Dave. He doesn't take shít.

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bucketybuck

Liam O wrote: »

Jesus. What have I stumbled into?

Still better than the feedback thread.

[Deleted User]

I'm still upset at the old dave to be honest.

Adamcp898

Backstreet Moyes

Don't worry he will be back if we sign Fernandes to tell us Origi scored more premier league goals than him last season

Trigger

Liam O wrote: »

I'm still upset at the old dave to be honest.

Well tbf I gave up a Vidic and Ferdinand partnership to do that :pac:

~Rebel~

Lord TSC wrote: »

Also, I’d be nervous with Toby.

Screams of another older player looking to move for a final pay day, rather than someone motivated to drag the club up a level again. I can see why we’d be skeptical of him this summer, given the philosophy seems to be or a younger, hungry for trophies profile of player.

Really wouldn't worry about that. Wanted out last year, didn't get his move, and had an easy escape this year - and still played his heart out all season. Never get the impression of a lazy player from him.

He's not exactly 'older' either - only just turned 30, which is pretty much peak for a CB. Even with a 4 year deal, he'll have only been 33 for 90% of his final year. And at those ages, he'll still be wanting/expecting to keep his spot for Belgium for the next Euros and World Cup.

A philosophy of youth often makes sense, as experience is costly - but he's going at an absolute bargain for his level of quality. And as for hunger - who's going to be hungrier than a lad in his peak years, who has been brilliant for a while, and has absolutely fuck all to show for it for his time at Spurs. This has to be his "win some shit" time.

Honestly, think he's the biggest no-brainer of the summer for any side looking for an upgrade in quality at the back. Utd and Arsenal should both be straight in matching his buyout. As should City to be honest, with Kompany heading off, and Stones out of favour. The only reason I see not to buy him, is if everyone matches his fee, and then it becomes an auction for wages.

Beasty

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Anyway I'm out :cool:

You are

Threadbanned from this and the next United Superthread

Any questions PM me

Everyone else please ignore his prior posts. Some have already been reported and I will work through them later

Drumpot

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Really wouldn't worry about that. Wanted out last year, didn't get his move, and had an easy escape this year - and still played his heart out all season. Never get the impression of a lazy player from him.

He's not exactly 'older' either - only just turned 30, which is pretty much peak for a CB. Even with a 4 year deal, he'll have only been 33 for 90% of his final year. And at those ages, he'll still be wanting/expecting to keep his spot for Belgium for the next Euros and World Cup.

A philosophy of youth often makes sense, as experience is costly - but he's going at an absolute bargain for his level of quality. And as for hunger - who's going to be hungrier than a lad in his peak years, who has been brilliant for a while, and has absolutely fuck all to show for it for his time at Spurs. This has to be his "win some shit" time.

Honestly, think he's the biggest no-brainer of the summer for any side looking for an upgrade in quality at the back. Utd and Arsenal should both be straight in matching his buyout. As should City to be honest, with Kompany heading off, and Stones out of favour. The only reason I see not to buy him, is if everyone matches his fee, and then it becomes an auction for wages.

I’d say he would cost circa 30 mil to buy. That’s 7 mil a year before wages/bonus over 4 years (or 135k per week). Just because united has been a disaster at buying players doesn’t make ever free player or expensive renewal a bad decision. How much did matic cost including transfer fee?

United’s policy of valuing players based off resale is a commercial decision. That has nothing to do with the first teams requirements. I don’t mind them building a young squad but experience like Alderweirald would be a welcome counter balance and some great experience for any already poor defence. Give one of the other crap center backs away for a few million. I’d be happy to see pretty much any cb flogged off to fund a hefty signing on fee.

KH25

I for one welcome our new Dave overlords.

Mitch Connor

Drumpot wrote: »

I’d say he would cost circa 30 mil to buy. That’s 7 mil a year before wages/bonus over 4 years (or 135k per week). Just because united has been a disaster at buying players doesn’t make ever free player or expensive renewal a bad decision. How much did matic cost including transfer fee?

United’s policy of valuing players based off resale is a commercial decision. That has nothing to do with the first teams requirements. I don’t mind them building a young squad but experience like Alderweirald would be a welcome counter balance and some great experience for any already poor defence. Give one of the other crap center backs away for a few million. I’d be happy to see pretty much any cb flogged off to fund a hefty signing on fee.

We signed Matic with no likely profit on resale.

~Rebel~

Drumpot wrote: »

I’d say he would cost circa 30 mil to buy. That’s 7 mil a year before wages/bonus over 4 years (or 135k per week). Just because united has been a disaster at buying players doesn’t make ever free player or expensive renewal a bad decision. How much did matic cost including transfer fee?

United’s policy of valuing players based off resale is a commercial decision. That has nothing to do with the first teams requirements. I don’t mind them building a young squad but experience like Alderweirald would be a welcome counter balance and some great experience for any already poor defence. Give one of the other crap center backs away for a few million. I’d be happy to see pretty much any cb flogged off to fund a hefty signing on fee.

Think his get-out clause that got activated this window is just 25m.

And yeah, he's the ideal chap to buy to bring in some youth around. Could then splurge on Maguire to partner him, or use Lindeloff and go buy a high quality young CB to groom to take his place over the next 2 years or so.

[Deleted User]

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Think his get-out clause that got activated this window is just 25m.

And yeah, he's the ideal chap to buy to bring in some youth around. Could then splurge on Maguire to partner him, or use Lindeloff and go buy a high quality young CB to groom to take his place over the next 2 years or so.

I simply believe it's all marketing and not common sense with Woodard and the board.

This is why he's looking for Maguire

Ole is only a frontman

Mitch Connor

Fred The Red wrote: »

I simply believe it's all marketing and not common sense with Woodard and the board.

This is why he's looking for Maguire

Ole is only a frontman

Where was the marketing push and jump behind Dalot? Bailly? Lindelof? Fred? Mkhitaryan? Rojo? Schneiderlin? Darmian? Matic? James?