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Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

EoinMcLovin

Releases on April 26th 2019

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GavRedKing

Just back from it and I don't know was I expecting too much but the film was a massive disappointment and a bit of let down IMO.

Id have preferred if they had killed off another half a dozen characters or so in the process of retrieving the stones and fighting Thanos at the end, there was no real sense of danger for the characters.

Tony's scene was predictable and it didn't really connect emotionally as the film still had 10/15mins to play out.

The only one I feel sorry for was Thanos, the universe was at least balanced and better off the way it was when he was off farming. :pac:

For me, Infinity Wars was a better film, to paraphrase and steal Tony's words : part of the journey (infinity wars) is better than the end (endgame).

It wasn't all bad but I didn't get a sense of much devastation from the "vanished" there was a memorial park in San Francisco and a meeting group setup by Captain America and the odd scene where people mentioned dead loved ones.

The powers of the heroes vary wildly too, Thanos seemed as powerful in this with no stones as he was in the last film with a gauntlet full and Thor was nerfed massively, storm breaker cut through the full power of the gauntlet last time but was stopped by a blade this time around made zero sense.

I think the Russos done a decent job over the two films but this was not much more than a solid 7/10 effort.

PTH2009

Loughc wrote: »

Just home from seeing it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. The 3 hours speeded past.

It’s certainly an end of an era. Ironman and Captain America were central to the Marvel universe and the Avengers.

It’s strange this was the most excited I’ve ever been for a movie and seeing how many screenings sold out tonight and 8 midnight screenings last night in my local cinema sold out means I’m not alone in the excitement but as soon as the movie ended and the realisation that team will never be the same and no RDJ or Chris Evans my interest in Phase 4 has fallen off a cliff.

I will approach phrase 4 with the upmost of hesitation and reluctance. As far as I’m concerned Endgame was the perfect ending and while I understand theres nothing but endless piles of money to make for Marvel they need to be careful going forward.

The Xmen and to a lesser extent FF will deff add positively too the MCU whatever they decide too do with them and how they come in

Imo one day the MCU it will all end as they cant keep on going

Yermande

An usher in my local Odeon came in at the end to tell everyone there's no post-credit sequence. That's fine. But then he started to gesture that people should get up and leave while the credits were still playing. Not cool. I'm not normally an asshole in those situations but I dug my heels in and stayed for the entire thing. I've been watching these movies for the past 11 years and I wanted to stay for the entire screening, which to me includes enjoying the closing moments of the score and the credits. Is being rushed out of a screening the done thing these days?

Yermande

What are people's feelings on the X-Men appearing in the MCU? Would we be looking at an entirely different cast? I kinda think it has to be.

Loughc

PTH2009 wrote: »

The Xmen and to a lesser extent FF will deff add positively too the MCU whatever they decide too do with them and how they come in

Imo one day the MCU it will all end as they cant keep on going

The problem is I’be seen XMen and FF numerous times. No matter how good Marvel do it, it’s been done. The story, origins, villains all too familiar.

Captain America and Ironman had never properly been done before. It was fresh and exciting. The MCU is only going to change for the worse now IMHO.

Loughc

Yermande wrote: »

Is being rushed out of a screening the done thing these days?

It is when the staff want to get home on time.

martingriff

By the wat all that talk about Sharon Carter she is Peggy's grand niece

martingriff

Yermande wrote: »

What are people's feelings on the X-Men appearing in the MCU? Would we be looking at an entirely different cast? I kinda think it has to be.

I think they may keep the X men cast depends on how Dark Phoenix goes.

Sparko

The girlpower thing was just clunky. I understand they were trying to make a point but I don't think it came off well and it just made me and the people I was with laugh because it was so painfully unsubtle. Took me slightly out of the moment but got over it quickly enough!

I'm still trying to digest everything and figure out the time travel bits, I thought Steve would just have ended up in a different timeline but seemingly he just grew old "behind the scenes" of the timeline we have watched for the last eleven years. Did he put all the stones back into "our timeline", so the branches that the ancient one mentioned then didn't occur? Did he have to reinject Jane with the reality stone? Where does Loki's disappearing act fit in, or did that not happen in our timeline because Cap went back and put the space stone back. Time travel hurts my brain.

brianregan09

They will definitely recast all the X-men feige has said as much, don't think they will be introduced as hamfisted as say Fox or DC would, some of the x characters fit in perfect in some of the current franchises, Rouge with Captain Marvel ,Storm with Black Panther etc

Joe Don Dante

how'd Tony get the stones off thanos glove so quick? you know when he snapped his fingers and nothing happened?

Calhoun

Loughc wrote: »

Just home from seeing it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. The 3 hours speeded past.

It’s certainly an end of an era. Ironman and Captain America were central to the Marvel universe and the Avengers.

It’s strange this was the most excited I’ve ever been for a movie and seeing how many screenings sold out tonight and 8 midnight screenings last night in my local cinema sold out means I’m not alone in the excitement but as soon as the movie ended and the realisation that team will never be the same and no RDJ or Chris Evans my interest in Phase 4 has fallen off a cliff.

I will approach phrase 4 with the upmost of hesitation and reluctance. As far as I’m concerned Endgame was the perfect ending and while I understand theres nothing but endless piles of money to make for Marvel they need to be careful going forward.

I am pretty much of the same thinking, it will be the true final film for me and let it go out on a bang. Marvel can then go an do the whole girl power thing in phase 4, aim it at the next generation ect.

pxdf9i5cmoavkz

martingriff wrote: »

I already thought that 1 of
Black Widow or Hawkeye/Ronin would die but as another poster said that due to the fact the soul stone was returned does that mean Black Widow lives and for the fact Gamora

Where is the Hammer now

How do they make the infinity Stone into the tesseract again?

Infinity War Gamora is gone forever but replaced by Gamaro from the past timeline°

Black Widow has a upcoming solo movie and remember that it's a soul for a soul. Return the soul stone and you get a soul. Ergo, Black Widow is back.

Cap very clearly picks it up before time travelling. He took it back to past Thor.

They don't. The space stone is inside the tesseract. It's just a container. Remember in Infinity War when Thanos crushed it to reveal the stone?

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This movie is a 5/10 for me. First two acts are boring as f... and there is zero impact from the narrative. The Russos have a terribly bland style and no signature to their movies.

The amount of foreshadowing to

Starks death

was over the top.

Infinity War was far better.

martingriff

Jayson Small Fur wrote: »

Infinity War Gamora is gone forever but replaced by Gamaro from the past timeline°

Black Widow has a upcoming solo movie and remember that it's a soul for a soul. Return the soul stone and you get a soul. Ergo, Black Widow is back.

Cap very clearly picks it up before time travelling. He took it back to past Thor.

They don't. The space stone is inside the tesseract. It's just a container. Remember in Infinity War when Thanos crushed it to reveal the stone?

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This movie is a 5/10 for me. First two acts are boring as f... and there is zero impact from the narrative. The Russos have a terribly bland style and no signature to their movies.

The amount of foreshadowing to
Starks death
was over the top.

Infinity War was far better.

I was thinking that with Black Widow just wanted it confirmed

Are you sure he brought it back to Thor. Was the Hammer that Thor fight with in the battle not the Hammer from Asgard when he went there for the stone and he says I am worthy

Victor

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I really liked what they managed to do with Hulk but really like, it would have been so much better if he was Ragnarok Hulk and he smashed like **** having been unable to in the first film. Really wanted to see him and Thanos have a rematch.

Ah, but Hulk in an Ant-Man suit.

PTH2009 wrote: »

BTW how did the truck get down there

The truck was in the warehouse for the 5 years, until Ant-Man brought it to Avengers headquarters.

Joe Don Dante wrote: »

how'd Tony get the stones off thanos glove so quick? you know when he snapped his fingers and nothing happened?

Glove made by Stark Industries.

Kirby

Teenagers are the worst. So little regard for anyone else around them. Wouldn't shut the f*ck up with the constant loud talking and I've never heard a cinema so loud when it comes to snacks. Like some of these gobsh*tes behind me HAD to have been doing it on purpose. Imagine a plastic bag being smashed and crinkled for three f*cking hours straight and you get the idea. Oh, and chew with your mouth closed ffs.

I've never been more annoyed and distracted in any screening before. This film's release coinciding with school holidays was a disaster. If I wasn't concerned with missing bits of the film, I'd have demanded that the staff kick them out. Proper f*cking scumbags. :mad:

Despite that, I still enjoyed the film.

Yermande

Loughc wrote: »

It is when the staff want to get home on time.

They should probably re-adjust "on time" to allow for actually finishing their job before they leave.

Ridley

Loughc wrote: »

The problem is I’be seen XMen and FF numerous times. No matter how good Marvel do it, it’s been done. The story, origins, villains all too familiar.

I disagree, at least with the FF. Just don't do Doctor Doom straight outta the box again, please. :pac:

bur

They should have waited until after Endgame to introduce Captain Marvel. She swoops in our of nowhere as the big hero of this ten year saga, but she wasn't needed to beat Thanos.

Was she added in post production?

EagererBeaver

Victor wrote: »

The truck was in the warehouse for the 5 years, until Ant-Man brought it to Avengers headquarters.

The question was how did it get into the warehouse it was in when the rat activated it, as at the end of Ant-man/Wasp they were on top of a multi storey parking lot.

Ant-man's daughter aged quicker than some soap opera characters in those 5 years.

Unearthly

About Gamora 2. Does she have to go back to 2014 as nothing can be taken from the past? I don't remember her being in the ship at the end but may have missed it

MUFC91CS

EagererBeaver wrote: »

The question was how did it get into the warehouse it was in when the rat activated it, as at the end of Ant-man/Wasp they were on top of a multi storey parking lot.

Ant-man's daughter aged quicker than some soap opera characters in those 5 years.

If you left a truck on the roof of a multi-storey car park would you honestly expect it to still be there in 5 years time? There is a whole industry dedicated to moving parked vehicles.

Kirby

MUFC91CS wrote: »

If you left a truck on the roof of a multi-storey car park would you honestly expect it to still be there in 5 years time? There is a whole industry dedicated to moving parked vehicles.

Yeah but eventually it would be sold/stripped.

Not that it matters ultimately. It was just a bit of a plot contrivance.

EagererBeaver

MUFC91CS wrote: »

If you left a truck on the roof of a multi-storey car park would you honestly expect it to still be there in 5 years time? There is a whole industry dedicated to moving parked vehicles.

There were abandoned vehicles literally lying about the place the entire time in San Francisco that nobody had moved.

Kirby wrote: »

Not that it matters ultimately. It was just a bit of a plot contrivance.

Absolutely

The White Wolf

martingriff wrote: »

Is Sharon not Peggy's Granddaughter at least as would she have had to been in her 50's or 60's when Captain meets her in the movies

Peggy was Sharon's aunt or great aunt. Not sure exactly but definitely not grand daughter. Sharon specifies the relationship in her eulogy for Peggy if you want to find it.

Penn

Kirby wrote: »

Yeah but eventually it would be sold/stripped.

Not that it matters ultimately. It was just a bit of a plot contrivance.

In the unit where the truck was stored, on the fence in front of the truck was a sign that said "Lang".

I think what it implies is that after the snap, people's belongings (in some cases even vehicles) that may have been left out in public were collected when it was assumed they were snapped because nobody knew what happened, or if/when people would come back. So these things were all put in storage to remove them. After that though, given how basic society collapsed (as we can see with how desolate everywhere had become), stuff was just left in storage for the most part. So Scott's truck just sat there,because there was no-one to organise selling or stripping it (plus given the state of the truck and the no doubt countless other cars/trucks that would also have been abandoned, it just would have been considered junk and not worth the effort to do anything with).

Loughc

Also what’s stopping 2013 Thanos stealing the stones again.

Seeing they dropped back all of the infinity stones. I get that 2014 Thanos is dead but what about pre-2014 Thanos?

The White Wolf

Loughc wrote: »

Also what’s stopping 2013 Thanos stealing the stones again.

Seeing they dropped back all of the infinity stones. I get that 2014 Thanos is dead but what about pre-2014 Thanos?

This is why I promised myself I wouldn't get in time travel debates.

People are tying themselves up in knots over it elsewhere.

Haven't a clue, but I imagine it's because it's business as usual for 2012/3 Thanos who wouldn't be aware of any time shenanigans.

Baggly

The way I'm treating it is that if 2014 thanos isn't there to do infinity war, everything in this movie doesn't happen. But if this movie doesn't happen, 2014 thanos is there to make the events of infinity War happen, which makes the time travel of this movie happen. But that means 2014 thanos isn't there to make infinity war...... Etc etc etc

So the universe does itself a favour and says time is looped so all of this happened and we can all carry on going on.

NuMarvel

Loughc wrote: »

Also what’s stopping 2013 Thanos stealing the stones again.

Seeing they dropped back all of the infinity stones. I get that 2014 Thanos is dead but what about pre-2014 Thanos?

As I understand the logic, everything that happened in the previous movies, still happens. So, basically, there are two Thanoses. The one who travels to and dies in 2023, and the one who goes on to collect and use the stones as we saw in the previous films.

Doesn't make much sense to me either, and maybe I missed some key dialogue that further explains it, but I wouldn't overthink it. It's really just a way for Marvel to do a time travel story without ruining previous movies for audiences. I'm sure the next Avengers movie will be Kang (a time traveller from the comics) telling Banner he's a moron and he doesn't understand time travel at all