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Saoradh dissident republican march in Dublin

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So less than 48 hours after the senseless shooting dead of journalist Lyra McKee in Derry during rioting, the dissident republican group Saoradh brazenly marched through Dublin city centre yesterday.

I consider this march to be a direct affront to democracy in this country and something sinister and very unwelcome.

An insult to Lyra McKee and her partner and family and a direct challenge to our State and society.

Should they even have been allowed march?

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Creol1

Tomas81 wrote: »

What? Hahaha are you joking?

No, British troops haven't been actively deployed in Northern Ireland since 31st July 2007: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/01/northernireland.military. That does not mean all troops are gone in a literal sense; troops may have a presence for training, etc., the same as any other part of the UK. However, they are not there on active deployment, i.e., they are not there as part of a military operation, which ended in 2007. Security is exclusively dealt with by the PSNI.

Tomas81

[Deleted User] wrote: »

i dont remember it and neither do you and its none of it the reaaon a young woman is dead shame on you for your poseur victimhood rhetoric in the circumstances

I remember it, my father and brother were both murdered by them. My father was murder in Ballymurphy massacre, my brother was shot while throwing stones.

[Deleted User]

Farawayhome wrote: »

Remember what the British security forces did last time they were stationed on the streets in Ireland? They murdered innocent children, planted bombs, teamed up with unionist extremists to terrorise the Nationalist community. They then covered up these crimes and have given no justice to the victims and their families. How are you ok with this?

i dont remember it and neither do you and its none of it the reaaon a young woman is dead shame on you for your poseur victimhood rhetoric in the circumstances

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Your point, if there is one, makes zero sense to me.

What about these groups says they are looking for votes?

Please
My point is that they have contempt for democracy
I don't see your issue with that or that it isn't clear

Tomas81

Aegir wrote: »

Who do you think disarms the bombs these ****ing muppets are building? The ****ing girls brigade?

So your accepting the British army are still in Ireland

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

Who do you think disarms the bombs these ****ing muppets are building? The ****ing girls brigade?

Woah!!! A minute ago you were looking for evidence! What's up with that reaction to the evidence provided?

Aegir wrote: »

So is there any evidence of the army on the streets of Derry?

Tomas81

Aegir wrote: »

So is there any evidence of the army on the streets of Derry?

Picture Above

vapor trails

Tomas81 wrote: »

Brit chopper in West Belfast 2017

Lol

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

So is there any evidence of the army on the streets of Derry?

Evidence coming in! Groups like this and the New IRA are not wanted.

[Deleted User]

Tomas81 wrote: »

British army in Creggan in 2013

Who do you think disarms the bombs these ****ing muppets are building? The ****ing girls brigade?

Tomas81

Brit chopper in West Belfast 2017

[Deleted User]

So is there any evidence of the army on the streets of Derry?

Tomas81

British army in Creggan in 2013

Farawayhome

Tomas81 wrote: »

Yes they are

It's a worrying development.

Seth Brundle

Tomas81 wrote: »

Bull****

Whatever :rolleyes:

Tomas81

Farawayhome wrote: »

Are they?

Yes they are

Farawayhome

Creol1 wrote: »

The British Army left Northern Ireland in 2007.

Apparently, they were raiding homes in Derry over the weekend though!

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

Are the army on the streets of Derry?

Are they?

Farawayhome

Berserker wrote: »

What the presence of the BA on the streets on Londonderry/Derry has to do with this shower of thugs marching through the streets of the Irish republic, somewhere you won't find the BA, is beyond me. The BA can patrol the streets of Londonderry/Derry. Its theirs to patrol. If S...h have an issue with the BA in NI, why don't they go up there and march? Is it possible that mammy and daddy won't let the go up to NI on their own?

What's this post all about? The British armed forces killed a huge amount of civilians during the recent war, they also intimidated and inflicted violence on the Nationalist community. They should not be stationed on the streets of Derry!

Tomas81

Creol1 wrote: »

The British Army left Northern Ireland in 2007.

What? Hahaha are you joking?

Creol1

Farawayhome wrote: »

The British army presence is a problem. They are stoking the tensions. Knowing how they behaved in the past, not only the murders but the intimidation and beatings they handed out, they are not looked upon favourably by any Nationalist but especially by those in Derry. Them throwing their weight around will only increase support for these groups like the New IRA.

The British Army left Northern Ireland in 2007.

Farawayhome

Deleted User wrote: »

because one is the legitimate army of its state going about its business whether you like that or not

and the other is a dangerous set of nationalist fascists who did it the day after the murder of a journalist for which they bear heavy responsibility

so thats two big differences for you

Remember what the British security forces did last time they were stationed on the streets in Ireland? They murdered innocent children, planted bombs, teamed up with unionist extremists to terrorise the Nationalist community. They then covered up these crimes and have given no justice to the victims and their families. How are you ok with this?

Tomas81

Seth Brundle wrote: »

(There's no allegedly about it)
Why does it matter where it occurred as from what I've learned it was far from an isolated incident?

Bull****

[Deleted User]

Farawayhome wrote: »

Where did you pull that one out of?

What I'm questioning is what are the British army doing on the streets of Derry? We all know their disgusting history, no one wants to see the bloodshed caused by them repeated.
The march by Saoradh has been questioned, why not this also?

Are the army on the streets of Derry?

Berserker

Farawayhome wrote: »

Where did you pull that one out of?

What I'm questioning is what are the British army doing on the streets of Derry? We all know their disgusting history, no one wants to see the bloodshed caused by them repeated.
The march by Saoradh has been questioned, why not this also?

What the presence of the BA on the streets on Londonderry/Derry has to do with this shower of thugs marching through the streets of the Irish republic, somewhere you won't find the BA, is beyond me. The BA can patrol the streets of Londonderry/Derry. Its theirs to patrol. If S...h have an issue with the BA in NI, why don't they go up there and march? Is it possible that mammy and daddy won't let the go up to NI on their own?

[Deleted User]

Farawayhome wrote: »

Where did you pull that one out of?

What I'm questioning is what are the British army doing on the streets of Derry? We all know their disgusting history, no one wants to see the bloodshed caused by them repeated.
The march by Saoradh has been questioned, why not this also?

because one is the legitimate army of its state going about its business whether you like that or not

and the other is a dangerous set of nationalist fascists who did it the day after the murder of a journalist for which they bear heavy responsibility

so thats two big differences for you

Farawayhome

Seth Brundle wrote: »

So you're saying that its not the fault of the criminal who pulled the trigger?

Where did you pull that one out of?

What I'm questioning is what are the British army doing on the streets of Derry? We all know their disgusting history, no one wants to see the bloodshed caused by them repeated.
The march by Saoradh has been questioned, why not this also?

Seth Brundle

Farawayhome wrote: »

There's no one condoning the murder of Lyra! No one wants a return to violence. The presence of the British army is a threat to that. This needs to be questioned. Why are they there?

So you're saying that its not the fault of the criminal who pulled the trigger?

Junkyard Tom

Seth Brundle wrote: »

from what I've learned it was far from an isolated incident?

No it was pretty 'normal' back in the day.

Seth Brundle

Tomas81 wrote: »

Where did this allegedly happen Seth?

(There's no allegedly about it)
Why does it matter where it occurred as from what I've learned it was far from an isolated incident?