Plumbthedepths wrote: » No I'm just excercising my right not to engage in your usual tactics. Call it what you will but you're not worth an infraction.
I think repeatedly referring to somebody as 'the winner of the lovely girl competition' sets out to demean her. I found her background details in a 30 sec search on google. You must be fond of 'wondering'.
is_that_so wrote: » And again you're basing this on a one horse mickey mouse election in which none of the three traditional parties really campaigned. He is not a professional politician, has no experience of a real campaign yet, nor how readily he can pick up transfers. People will vote for incumbents. That means Carthy, McGuinness and Ming. If he's in for anything it's the last seat but FF will almost certainly have their eye on it.
is_that_so wrote: And again you're basing this on a one horse mickey mouse election in which none of the three traditional parties really campaigned. He is not a professional politician, has no experience of a real campaign yet, nor how readily he can pick up transfers. People will vote for incumbents. That means Carthy, McGuinness and Ming. If he's in for anything it's the last seat but FF will almost certainly have their eye on it.
eagle eye wrote: » You'd probably have said the same thing about Ming in the last European elections. I predicted he'd top the poll. People told me I was crazy. I'm telling you now that Casey will top the poll. Also it's been a growing trend in this country to walk away from supporting a party. Independents have been on the rise for some time. There are currently three independents in Europe, that might grow this time around.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Back to claiming 23 per cent from a base of nothing is a poor result. lol it's actually pathetic at this stage.
Edgware wrote: » That theory would mean there would never be a change of representation. Facts show otherwise.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Do you believe there is a (unknown previously) groundswell who wish to leave the Euro and consequently the EU or that there will be a protest vote of some sort, that will have him 'topping the poll'. I ask because we heard this 'topping the poll' stuff in the Presidential election and he managed just 23%.
NIMAN wrote: » Just 23%. I bet you the other candidates (exc MDH) wished they had got such a crap % of the votes.
is_that_so wrote: As is assuming that 23% in a one horse personality race shows likely future outcomes. It was a third of the winner, who could have won while sitting at home in bed.
mgn wrote: » I would consider 23% a good result considering every TV and Radio broadcaster tried to make him out to be racist.The Late Late Show was a typical example of whats wrong with this country.
super_furry wrote: » A good chunk or that 23% votes for him exactly because 'every TV and Radio broadcaster tried to make him out to be racist.'. His entire support started and ended when he started to go after travellers.
mgn wrote: » Started to go after the travellers.What is that supposed to mean.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I didn't say anything about a 'crap' vote.I was referring to predictions that he would romp home or top the poll. Even a casual observer would admit that 23% is a long way short of that.
super_furry wrote: » It means that until his verbal diarrhea on the radio, he was floating around 4% support and was in the race as the second, less interesting Dragons Den celebrity. He then stumbled across an anti-travller rant that had him suspending his presendential bid and considering withdrawing from the race entirely, until he cottoned on to the fact that there was a portion of the electorate that would vote for him because he attacked travellers.
NIMAN wrote: » Did he attack travellers? I only remember him saying he didn't see them as a separate ethnic race, that they were the same as him, Irish. He also said that it was a disgrace that they weren't accepting €1.5million worth of new houses because they weren't getting land for horses out the back. I think many agreed with this btw. Did I miss any other attacks?
mgn wrote: » He considered withdrawing because he was threatened by the lovely people you seem to defend.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is the usual selective memory people have about him and only quote some of what he said. Here is what he said originally; 'everyone knows that travellers are basically people who camp on others land'. Nowhere near the truth and designed to enflame.
super_furry wrote: » Ahhh the old 'well I agree with him so it's not wrong' angle. You can try to tie things up in semantic knots all you like, but the fact is, the success of Casey's entire campaign was built on his anti-traveller remarks and comments. He was on 2% in the polls until then.
Edgware wrote: » So we should have been kept ignorant of the fact that travellers are refusing houses because they arent getting stables with them? Do you find something wrong with people knowing the truth?
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is the usual selective memory people have about him and only quote some of what he said. Here is what he said originally; 'everyone knows that travellers are basically people who camp on others land'.Nowhere near the truth and designed to enflame.
NIMAN wrote: » Well, we will have to agree to disagree on that point, as I think he wasn't far off the truth, but you think its at the opposite end. I think he also said they were Irish and not a separate race on the same interview he said about them camping on other peoples land. But I wouldn't say he went out to attack travellers per se.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Not that it's terribly important but Mickey D got just under 56 percent, that's not three times Casey's vote. Also I don't think anyone thought no one other than the incumbent was going to win despite the nonsense one poster here likes to repeat.
