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Were The Ramones the most overrated band of all time?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

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DEFTLEFTHAND

sligojoek wrote: »

Francis Rossi: Have you ever listened to a Quo song and found yourself saying, "That song could really do with a 4th chord."?

Yeah but Status Quo wrote good tunes.

I've nothing against simple playing, all im saying is that the Ramones couldn't write decent numbers from that practice. Out of their 100s of tunes, what have you got? Blitzkrieg Bop? I wanna be sedated?

looksee

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Penney's needs more Jim Reeves tshirts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpi8Bek6jdM

I remember... the night Jim Reeves was killed in a plane crash...listening to Radio Luxemburg on a tranny (transistor radio before you ask) in a field, camping with a group of mates.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Listen I like punk.

Give me The Clash , Sex pistols, the Heatbreakers any day over The Ramones.

Think of later bands also like Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182.

Good playing and songwriting.

Fück, no. Just, no. The fücking Offspring? Shudder.

Harry Palmr

that hideous surfer shorts 90s ****e was unlistenable.

ArchXStanton

Deleted User wrote: »

I’d say the Stones were the prototype for that

Could well have been, I read Rottens biography (well worth a read) and they were nutcases, truly shocking stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XGe_hncsiM

DEFTLEFTHAND

Good Lord.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Harry Palmr wrote: »

that hideous surfer shorts 90s ****e was unlistenable.

The worst popular music of my teenage years outside of boyband music. Worse in a way because everyone knew Westlife were shïte but bands like The Offspring, Green Day and Blink had a patina of credibility. I’ll die happy if I never hear Billie Joe Wotsit’s stuffed nose singing voice again.

Anesthetize

I was never a massive fan of them but their first album has some fun tunes. I'm more a fan of the bands that they directly influenced.

But they're a band who sold more t-shirts than records, along with The Misfits.

thebaz

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Listen to Johnny speak. He wanted the money, they used the struggling starving artists who never sold out excuse because they could never do in 20 albums what The Sex Pistols did in one.

Maybe you should listen to Johnny speak - the Pistols never made money either despite ther hits - The Rock n'Roll Swindle - Both first albums were great , but the Ramones started way before the Pistols , and played for a decade whereas the Pistols only really lasted a year - Golden era for Pop , in comparison to todays rubbish.

smurgen

The libertines

Your Face

I think they are a great band but a lot of bands like this get misappropriated as a brand name.

DEFTLEFTHAND

smurgen wrote: »

The libertines

Pete Doherty is actually very talented, his past drug exploits sometimes shadow that.

It's not punk though.

DEFTLEFTHAND

thebaz wrote: »

Maybe you should listen to Johnny speak - the Pistols never made money either despite ther hits - The Rock n'Roll Swindle - Both first albums were great , but the Ramones started way before the Pistols , and played for a decade whereas the Pistols only really lasted a year - Golden era for Pop , in comparison to todays rubbish.

Not at the time but The Pistols are making major money from the royalties to that album to this day.

Lyndon calls it his retirement fund . He doesn't the touch the Sps money.

He'll retire a very wealthy man.

Rubberchikken

no. but u2 are. blur ltoo.

Arne_Saknussem

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Fück, no. Just, no. The fücking Offspring? Shudder.

Blink 182 are no better :eek:

coolshannagh28

There is a school of thought that contends that music peaked in the early 70s but tailed off as the decade went on as it became more experimental and progressive and boring , the Ramones dug music out of that rut with short sharp songs and launched thousands of bands , this momentum maintained the industry till the end of the century , pardon the pun.

Church on Tuesday

"1,2,3,4!"

And repeat.

Gimme A Pound

Ah they were great for what they offered. 50s inspired energetic power pop - it was definitely a big influence. They didn't claim to be anything more.

The hype over The Clash - now that's the one I don't get.

Church on Tuesday

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Blink 182 are no better :eek:

No one over the age of 25 at a push should be listening to Blink.

Awful american teenage angst tripe.

Ash.J.Williams

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

The ramones are actually aiming above you. Amazing band. Try play full chords using only downstrokes at their live speed and come back to me...

thebaz

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Not at the time but The Pistols are making major money from the royalties to that album to this day.

Lyndon calls it his retirement fund . He doesn't the touch the Sps money.

He'll retire a very wealthy man.

well, if the Ramones were alive , they would be very wealthy too - though not sure what royalties are making Pistols so wealthy , one album and some great singles that havnt charted for 40 years. I'd say Lydon is comfortable , but in comparison to Jagger and Bono , not so much

[Deleted User]

nullzero wrote: »

They're a band who have their t-shirts worn by people who've no idea what punk is never mind having listened to their music.

And then you have "square corporate suits" in their late 50s working in uncool professions like accountancy or banking who'll tell you that their favourite gig was the Ramones in the State Cinema, Phibsborough (1978) or the Grand Cinema, Cabra (1980) - and be able to recall it as if it was yesterday, while wistfully thinking of their lost youth. Never judge a book by its cover.

I love the Ramones. Got a taped copy of It's Alive when I was 13 and never looked back. The End Of The Century (produced by Phil Spector) is a lost classic.

thebaz

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

And then you have "square corporate suits" in their late 50s working in uncool professions like accountancy or banking who'll tell you that their favourite gig was the Ramones in the State Cinema, Phibsborough (1978) or the Grand Cinema, Cabra (1980) - and be able to recall it as if it was yesterday, while wistfully thinking of their lost youth. Never judge a book by its cover.

i know a few of those - I actually had a ticket for that Grand Cinema gig - and sold it for beer money - now thats punk, nah stupidity - i still regret it

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Blink 182 are no better :eek:

Oh, agreed. No arguments there. Green Day might be slightly above them. But not by much.

One eyed Jack

I’ve heard of them but couldn’t remember any of their songs so did a quick look up on YouTube. Can definitely see how their influence on later pop “punk” bands of the 90’s, but I wouldn’t rate those bands too highly either.

I don’t think they’re terrible, I just wouldn’t rate them very highly is all. I don’t even know were they ever over-rated in the first place or was their music generally regarded as mediocre pop punk?

Relikk

They get a certain amount of reverence because they were American, and the American music press at the time had virtually nothing apart from The Stooges to compare to the far superior British bands, so they'd try to shout you down and tell you that The Ramones were the greatest "PUHNNKKK RAAAHHHHCKKKK" band ever. Bands like Wire, The Stranglers and The Damned were all much better bands with great musicians.

[Deleted User]

Saw Wire in HQ, 2000. One of the best gigs ever.

Odhinn

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Oasis and U2 had hits.

Number 1 singles and albums.

So did kylie minogue

Ash.J.Williams

We've reached a stage where people have lost the context of what made bands good, the ramones are legendary and it's to do with the music and the rest...

SoundsRight

No. Beatles and U2 by a mile the most overrated.