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Bus to Oranmore

MattressRick

Does anyone know for the 404 bus out from Eyre Square to oranmore, is the last stop always oranmore town centre?
Ringing bus eireann is pointless to find out. The bus from oranmore to Eyre Square starts at oranmore town centre and goes up through oranmore village, but the return journey doesn't seem to cover the same bus stops from what I see, it stops at town centre. Kind of annoying when most of the housing estates are up the far end of oranmore village so it's a bit of a walk home

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Citizenpain

MattressRick wrote: »

Does anyone know for the 404 bus out from Eyre Square to oranmore, is the last stop always oranmore town centre?
Ringing bus eireann is pointless to find out. The bus from oranmore to Eyre Square starts at oranmore town centre and goes up through oranmore village, but the return journey doesn't seem to cover the same bus stops from what I see, it stops at town centre. Kind of annoying when most of the housing estates are up the far end of oranmore village so it's a bit of a walk home

Yes but it does just start there again and head through the village so unless you are on the last bus you should be fine . And good news for you if this is still going ahead https://connachttribune.ie/newcastle-to-oranmore-bus-service-extended-to-include-oranhill/

bobbyss

MattressRick wrote:

Does anyone know for the 404 bus out from Eyre Square to oranmore, is the last stop always oranmore town centre? Ringing bus eireann is pointless to find out. The bus from oranmore to Eyre Square starts at oranmore town centre and goes up through oranmore village, but the return journey doesn't seem to cover the same bus stops from what I see, it stops at town centre. Kind of annoying when most of the housing estates are up the far end of oranmore village so it's a bit of a walk home

Why pointless ringing BE? Not answer? Gruff response ? Didn't know? Endless waiting for someone to pick up? Wrong number?

MattressRick

bobbyss wrote: »

Why pointless ringing BE? Not answer? Gruff response ? Didn't know? Endless waiting for someone to pick up? Wrong number?

Yep an endless wait for someone to answer the phone. The customer service is as bad as anywhere in the world.

MattressRick

Citizenpain wrote: »

Yes but it does just start there again and head through the village so unless you are on the last bus you should be fine . And good news for you if this is still going ahead https://connachttribune.ie/newcastle-to-oranmore-bus-service-extended-to-include-oranhill/

Thanks for that link. Great to see

Mrs OBumble

MattressRick wrote: »

Thanks for that link. Great to see

Notice there isn't a start date. PR was from Nov 2018.

sgthighway

The bus stops opposite the OranTown Centre and waits there until it is due to depart so you could be waiting there 5-10 minutes some days. The bus will then continue up the village and stop opposite the Astro Pitch. There it will just pickup and leave straight away.

Lots of Locals are objecting to the Bus going up to Oran Hill. I think they are idiots. A load of families with kids who down the line will need that bus for work or college. Even for them to come home from socialising in town.

Citizenpain

sgthighway wrote: »

The bus stops opposite the OranTown Centre and waits there until it is due to depart so you could be waiting there 5-10 minutes some days. The bus will then continue up the village and stop opposite the Astro Pitch. There it will just pickup and leave straight away.

Lots of Locals are objecting to the Bus going up to Oran Hill. I think they are idiots. A load of families with kids who down the line will need that bus for work or college. Even for them to come home from socialising in town.

Why are they objecting?

Mrs OBumble

Citizenpain wrote: »

Why are they objecting?

I don't know, but guess that the bus's turning spot may be an issue. There's no way to turn, so the bus would have to go into the estate. On Google maps, several of the streets have little architectural features to make it impossible for motor-vehicles to do a circuit. I can see one potential route though.

Possibly they think that having a bus-route will lower their property values (I kid you not, some do think like that).

Selenophile

Some time around Christmas, I heard that "some guy" (singular) complained about the bus turning in front of his house. Those complains were then refused so the project had a go.
Next thing I heard was about three weeks ago, when I asked a BE driver about it. He told me that it was in the pipeline with National Transport Authority, and that the only thing left was to figured out where to turn the bus, from the safety perspective. He also told me that a plan for 404 was not only to extend it to Oranhill, but also to Bushypark on the other side.

I'm not surprised there is more resistance than enthusiasm with local residents, as majority of households own more than one car. I guess they are not particularly interested in using public transportation.

I don't see how this could lower property value, unless the bus stop is just in front of the house door, and I doubt BE would do that.

Also, adding a few stops between the village center and Oranhill could help people from other estates on the way, as well.

GalwayGrrrrrl

“ He also told me that a plan for 404 was not only to extend it to Oranhill, but also to Bushypark on the other side.”

Where to in Bushypark?

Selenophile

GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: »

“ He also told me that a plan for 404 was not only to extend it to Oranhill, but also to Bushypark on the other side.”

Where to in Bushypark?

He didn't specify, and I didn't ask. I was more interested to find out about the Oranhill story, as there hadn't been a word about it since that article in Connacht Tribune.

I'm not sure if one service should cover such a long route, considering all the traffic issues and congestion in Galway. Maybe it would be better if they break it in two, even if they overlap at some point, i.e. they don't terminate at Eyre Square.

Mrs OBumble

Selenophile wrote: »

I'm not sure if one service should cover such a long route, considering all the traffic issues and congestion in Galway. Maybe it would be better if they break it in two, even if they overlap at some point, i.e. they don't terminate at Eyre Square.

One long route actually seems to work better than two shorter ones - it has on the 401 / ex 403 route anyway.

It cuts loading time because some people don't have to change buses, and just having more vehicles on the route overall means theres less of a gap if one fails to run.

bobbyss

And where would it turn in Bushypark?

zell12

Selenophile wrote: »

... I'm not surprised there is more resistance than enthusiasm with local residents, as majority of households own more than one car. I guess they are not particularly interested in using public transportation.
I don't see how this could lower property value, unless the bus stop is just in front of the house door, and I doubt BE would do that.

Same on d'other side of town eight months ago. Yet no such thing as too many cars

Selenophile

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

One long route actually seems to work better than two shorter ones - it has on the 401 / ex 403 route anyway.

It cuts loading time because some people don't have to change buses, and just having more vehicles on the route overall means theres less of a gap if one fails to run.

Makes sense. Anyway, if it is going to work, I don't mind. Whatever is more efficient.

zell12 wrote: »

Same on d'other side of town eight months ago. Yet no such thing as too many cars

I'm starting to feel that people like to abuse those "safety concerns" whenever they want to protect some selfish and extravagant interest. I don't understand why Garda supported their view and forced City Direct to reduce number of buses ???
I mean, what is safer: a bus with professional driver behind the wheel, or huge number of cars where good number of people still fancy texting while driving ?
Or I misunderstood and City Direct just wanted to avoid hassle of being reported every now and then ?
I guess, if we continue like this, we will end up off topic into same old story about solving Galway traffic issues.

what_traffic

Selenophile wrote: »

I'm starting to feel that people like to abuse those "safety concerns" whenever they want to protect some selfish and extravagant interest. I don't understand why Garda supported their view and forced City Direct to reduce number of buses ???

I believe the issue was buses parking on the public road waiting to start at allotted time?. No proper bus terminus with shelters on that road the last time I was up there.

Selenophile

what_traffic wrote: »

I believe the issue was buses parking on the public road waiting to start at allotted time?. No proper bus terminus with shelters on that road the last time I was up there.

Oh, so I misunderstood. Those busses were actually parked on the road. I thought they were complaining about too many busses passing that way. Ok, that is an issue.

Mrs OBumble

bobbyss wrote: »

And where would it turn in Bushypark?

Plenty of space for a turning area in front of the Glenlo!

Or they could widen Circular Rd, and have it do a big loop from there back to Westside. (Ya ... I know. Had to be said though :-) )

what_traffic

Selenophile wrote: »

Oh, so I misunderstood. Those busses were actually parked on the road. I thought they were complaining about too many busses passing that way. Ok, that is an issue.

If only Galway City Council did actual planning. This kind of stuff (bus laybys with shelters) should have been built(or at least provision made for it) before any houses were built. WDR is another absolute mess.

GalwayGrrrrrl

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Plenty of space for a turning area in front of the Glenlo!

Or they could widen Circular Rd, and have it do a big loop from there back to Westside. (Ya ... I know. Had to be said though :-) )

Glenlo are building a second entrance/exit. It would make a perfect bus turning spot- very public spirited of them

Storm 10

The 404 starts opposite Peter Murphy's and there was supposed to be shelter and a parking bay for the bus, if you look at where it stops you can see the area they intended to park the bus in its now just a very wide footpath forceing the bus to park on yellow lines, It's daft what's going on in the City there are way too many stops with no shelters.