paw patrol wrote: » I for one am happy I live in a country where the average sociopath does not have access to military grade weapons.
CJhaughey wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/garda-search-failed-to-find-drugs-and-assault-rifle-stashed-in-bed-1.3827767https://www.thejournal.ie/three-arrested-after-firearms-in-postal-packages-from-us-seized-by-gardai-4284548-Oct2018/https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/0211/1028923-greenogue/ Yep we are pretty safe in this country.
StinkyMunkey wrote: » These threads always seem to attract the gun nuts telling us just how wrong we are for wanting stricter gun controls in any given country. They gloss over the simple facts trying to dazzle with useless facts pertaining to firearms. More guns = more dead people (it's not fcuking rocket science). More cars on the road = more RTA's More people smoking = more smoking related deaths More junkies = more drug related deaths More military grade weapons = a greater chance to kill more people over a shorter period of time. I often wonder are people just plain stupid or trolling when denying these simple irrefutable thruths. NZ will curb sales of military grade weapons and introduce legislation to reduce the risks the chances of this happening again. I for one am happy I live in a country where the average sociopath does not have access to military grade weapons.
Turtwig wrote: » Pardon my ignorance, has there been any terrorist attacks in New Zealand by those who subscribe to a version of Islam? I ask because I can't recall any. How do you radicalise someone to the point of them murdering people of a different identity when that identity hasn't even committed any violence in the radicals' homeland? Extreme level of brainwashing. In many ways I find this event more disturbing than other mass killings.
StinkyMunkey wrote: » I for one am happy I live in a country where the average sociopath does not have access to military grade weapons.
StinkyMunkey wrote: » NZ will curb sales of military grade weapons and introduce legislation to reduce the risks the chances of this happening again.
Toxic Sphere wrote: » It's ****ing retarded. It's just a team name. Changing it won't bring anyone back, won't stop another attack.Let's make Saracens change their name after the next Islamic terror attack.
Toxic Sphere wrote: » 0. It's ok, history is not your strong point
Toxic Sphere wrote: » Easy there kid, I'm merely pointing out this was complicated ****, with both sides doing bad, hence why it's retarded to guilt trip a rugby team over their name. If you want to talk about Islamic tradegy read about how the Muslims got wrecked in the first crusade because they couldn't unite against the Christians.
Toxic Sphere wrote: » Plenty of Christian women getting ****ed when they were taken into sex slavery alright. Can say the same about the Muslims too with their Sunni and Shia ****.
Toxic Sphere wrote: » Ancient history. Jews got slaughtered too. And what do you think happened to the Christians after the fall of the Crusades states?
Toxic Sphere wrote: » The clowns calling for the rugby team to change its name may want to read up on the Crusades.
…Regardless of age and condition, they laid low, without distinction, every enemy encountered. Everywhere was frightful carnage, everywhere lay heaps of severed heads, so that soon it was impossible to pass or to go from one place to another except over the bodies of the slain. Already the leaders had forced their way by various routes almost to the center of the city and wrought unspeakable slaughter as they advanced. A host of people followed in their train, athirst for the blood of the enemy and wholly intent upon destruction. . . . So frightful was the massacre throughout the city, so terrible the shedding of blood, that even the victors experienced sensations of horror and loathing. …A crowd of knights and foot soldiers... massacred all those who had taken refuge [in the court of the Temple]. No mercy was shown to anyone, and the whole place was flooded with the blood of the victims. It was indeed the righteous judgment of God which ordained that those who had profaned the sanctuary of the Lord by their superstitious rites and had caused it to be an alien place to His faithful people should expiate their sin by death and, by pouring out their own blood, purify the sacred precincts. It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused horror in all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished, in addition to those who lay slain everywhere throughout the city in the streets and squares, the number of whom was estimated as no less.
Manic Moran wrote: » By shooting up a mosque
Zorya wrote: » He's from New Zealand.
Zorya wrote: » I seriously never would have said Ireland has a ''gun culture''. I think it is just a rural tool and accessory.
Boggles wrote: » That's not really true is it? I mean you don't make it into the top 20 of gun ownership in the world without having some bit of a gun culture. Japan don't have a gun culture because they don't really have any guns.
Yeah_Right wrote: » NZ doesn't have a gun culture so there isn't a need for banning types of weapons.
Manic Moran wrote: » The shooting was more motivated by ethnicism / nationalism. If he shot up a church, he would have had a much higher incidence of killing non-immigrants and people of the same cultural background as he wished to retain for Aus/NZ. By shooting up a mosque, he was almost certainly going to be predominantly killing people who were immigrants and people from a different cultural background.
Bannasidhe wrote: » Ummm... most of the population of NZ are from an immigrant background... Even the Maori got there by boat originally.
There were also numerous references on the suspected shooter’s weapons to medieval battles and figures, including four names of medieval Serbs who fought against the Muslim Ottomans, two Hungarian military leaders who fought the Ottomans, and numerous references to the Crusades, when Christian armies from Europe tried to seize the Holy Land from Muslims during the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Think he hates muslims abit more. You do know he went into a mosque and shot and killed 59 adult and children...don't you?.
MontgomeryClift wrote: » While I don't argue with you on the book banning, I have a couple of corrections there: 1) Britain and France declared war on Germany on September 3 1939, while Hitler, both in public and in private, always maintained he wanted an end to pointless wars with both countries, and 2) I suggest you do some real research in to the 'gassing of millions' thing, but I feel obliged to warn you that a critical inquiry into this topic will make you a holocaust denier.
DS86DS wrote: » Brendan Tarrant, self-described Communist with a hatred for Christianity and Conservatives.https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/radicalization-degeneration-brenton-tarrant-white-supremacist/
markodaly wrote: » You do not see that it's odd that one can buy 'Mien Kampf' but not '12 rules for life'? One guy was the leader of National Socialism, created the 3rd Reich, launched a war which killed up to 50 million people, including the gassing of millions of Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals. The other guy possed in a photo next to a guy wearing a subjectively offensive t-shirt. Out of these two who whose ideas caused more carnage? Oh, and that is not even starting on the whole 'freedom of speech' for private businesses when it suits.
