Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » Really weak reasoning to 'deplatform' him.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » After all these months, this is the best Twitter can come up to justify their removal of Jones from their platform:
pleas advice wrote: » How long would he last on Boards?
splashuum wrote: » People defending twitter here are pretty embarrassing.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Facebook, Apple, Youtube, Spotify and Twitter have all banned him from their platforms with good reason, not that they need one, they are private platforms
nullzero wrote: » The issue is more about freedom of speech than the policies of private platforms. Humans are generally quite good at deciding for themselves whether or not somebody's opinions are valid or not. We don't require the aid of others to make those decisions and to be honest the more out there opinions need to be aired publicly for all to see, hear and understand. Censorship isn't the answer, and those acting as apologists for it need to examine their own motivations. Freedom of speech should never be some a la carte style system where only certain individuals or groups get to voice their opinions, it just doesn't work.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Freedom of speech and censorship do not apply to private platforms.
nullzero wrote: » I appreciate that, but these platforms are in essence the de facto places people receive their information on the world these days and are massively influence society at large. They have grown beyond the status of a typical private business. At the end of the day all deplatforming somebody like Alex Jones serves to do is harden the opinions of those who believe his ideas as it plays perfectly into the conspiratorial narrative. You are in essence proving their point for them. Alex Jones should be allowed on these platforms and the people can decide for themselves what to believe about him, as I recall very few people gave a damn about him outside of his following until he was deplatformed.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Platforms have a responsibility to protect themselves. Letting people like jones continue to spout their lies does not do that.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » Yes nothing wrong with private companies telling us what we should think? I wonder how far this will go, how far we accept being told what is acceptable, what’s next. Very sinister indeed and what is more sinister is everyone defending and cheering it on. People actually using Orwellian language of “hate speech” to defend it. Sickening and frightening.
nullzero wrote: » So censorship is a good thing?
nullzero wrote: » I appreciate that, but these platforms are in essence the de facto places people receive their information on the world these days and are a massive influence society at large. They have grown beyond the status of a typical private business.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Censorhip does not apply to private platforms. I thought we had already established that?
Ipso wrote: » Has anyone been to infowars? Do threads criticising connman Jones last long?
nullzero wrote: » But their actions amount to censorship. I thought that had been established, or do you prefer to filter out the things that don't suit you?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » About as long as the smell of a fart during a hurricane.
Venom wrote: » The issue is that these platforms are huge monopolies used for world wide communication, so it's a tad more complicated than them to be considered "just" private companies.
batgoat wrote: » They don't. You can keep saying they do but he's perfectly free to host content himself. Which he does.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I prefer to use words with their correct meaning.
nullzero wrote: » More people are talking about Alex Jones since he was deplatformed than had even heard of him beforehand. There are oddles of people spouting dangerous libelous nonsense online and a guy who has nervous breakdowns on his conspiracy radio show needs to be deplatformed whilst other continue talking nonsense. The whole thing is laughable, and what's more laughable is the people celebrating it.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » There is nothing stopping anybody creating their own platform. twitter, fb, youtube et al did not appear fully formed.
