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NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&cid=94163

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tea and coffee

For the etray I just did the practise test a few times the day before to get into the mindset

For interview, have 2 examples for each competency. Be comfortable with the examples and how they display the traits of the competency. Try and get a more senior colleague to do a practise interview with you- it's very helpful imo.

gmisk

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Does anyone have a recommendation for practice test sets/training materials to buy? I'm mostly interested in the job situation and etray.

(especially from anyone who did well in the November tests!)

I just did the practice tests on the links they sent (I did them a couple of times), I found it helpful more for numerical practice, which was tough.

My job simulation score wasnt great but the etray was decent.

The practice etray was pretty simple compared to the real one.
Your total score is determined by your scores for the Job Simulation and E tray exercise only....I didnt read that before going in...helpfully!

It is a long day, bring water and a banana or something.

Good luck!

PhoenixParker

Riskymove wrote: »

No idea of how many did online tests

I think around 650 to 700 were sent to shortlisting so around 50% through to assessment

In terms of total numbers who passed, the minimum qualifying score was 80. Whatever the order of merit score was for people at 80 would tell us roughly how many passed.

How many applied (and completed the form and tests properly) we can't really know unless they publish it.

Riskymove

FlexBrowne wrote: »

Thanks. From an initial application of what....5/6k?

No idea of how many did online tests

I think around 650 to 700 were sent to shortlisting so around 50% through to assessment

gmisk

Anyone have any website with half decent likely interview questions for AP?
Have mine next week...honestly no idea what to do bar going over form and the headings in it.

PhoenixParker

Does anyone have a recommendation for practice test sets/training materials to buy? I'm mostly interested in the job situation and etray.

(especially from anyone who did well in the November tests!)

SFC1895

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Seems to be open for booking already.
8 days of tests.

Yep. Booked in for Tuesday afternoon- the 19th

PhoenixParker

Seems to be open for booking already.
8 days of tests.

ammg

Beebeebug wrote: »

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/review-process e-mail to CEO of PAS

I'm going informal first

Addle

They don't seem to project anything unfortunately.

Max Mustermann

Beebeebug wrote: »

Dee, I'm more less the same as you except I was sat at no.1 on my regional panel in the 2016 comp waiting for 8 months for a post to come up. Unfortunately it didn't and the panel expired. Didn't make the cut on shortlisting on basis of project management/ operations. I moved to a new CS dept so had also broaden my experience in the meantime. Kicker for me is if I had put down Dublin as a location choice last time I'd be 18 months an AP now. Unfortunately Dublin isn't a possibility for me personally however I'm fairly flexible on other locations but PAS limit us to 2 counties. Not even regions. Very frustrating!! Lack of consistency in standard is worrying.

I've requested a formal review.

Congrats to all who made it through shortlisting though and good luck going forward.

I don't see why panels need to have an expiry date. It seems very unfair for anyone left on it. Surely they could just stop adding to it based on projected demand and the panel will expire naturally.

Beebeebug

Chieftain wrote: »

You are dead right to request a formal review. Was thinking of doing the same. How do you go about it?

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/review-process e-mail to CEO of PAS

Chieftain

Beebeebug wrote: »

Dee, I'm more less the same as you except I was sat at no.1 on my regional panel in the 2016 comp waiting for 8 months for a post to come up. Unfortunately it didn't and the panel expired. Didn't make the cut on shortlisting on basis of project management/ operations. I moved to a new CS dept so had also broaden my experience in the meantime. Kicker for me is if I had put down Dublin as a location choice last time I'd be 18 months an AP now. Unfortunately Dublin isn't a possibility for me personally however I'm fairly flexible on other locations but PAS limit us to 2 counties. Not even regions. Very frustrating!! Lack of consistency in standard is worrying.

I've requested a formal review.

Congrats to all who made it through shortlisting though and good luck going forward.

You are dead right to request a formal review. Was thinking of doing the same. How do you go about it?

Beebeebug

dee75 wrote: »

Got my regional shortlisting reply also. Score from online tests was 129.

Didn't make it through shortlisting though and they said it was management/ leadership criteria that I fell down on.

However I was successful in batch 1 of the 2016 competition and came 2nd in one of my counties. Got offered an AP role but turned it down at the time as it didn't suit.

So basically 2 years ago I met all criteria, scored very highly in tests and interview and got offered a job.

Now 2 years later (with significant professional development especially in the management and leadership side) I don't make it through shortlisting?

Bizarre!!

Ah well, their loss!!

Dee, I'm more less the same as you except I was sat at no.1 on my regional panel in the 2016 comp waiting for 8 months for a post to come up. Unfortunately it didn't and the panel expired. Didn't make the cut on shortlisting on basis of project management/ operations. I moved to a new CS dept so had also broaden my experience in the meantime. Kicker for me is if I had put down Dublin as a location choice last time I'd be 18 months an AP now. Unfortunately Dublin isn't a possibility for me personally however I'm fairly flexible on other locations but PAS limit us to 2 counties. Not even regions. Very frustrating!! Lack of consistency in standard is worrying.

I've requested a formal review.

Congrats to all who made it through shortlisting though and good luck going forward.

FlexBrowne

Riskymove wrote: »

word of mouth is around 350

Thanks. From an initial application of what....5/6k?

PhoenixParker

FlexBrowne wrote: »

Me too. How many are going through to Stage 3?

Well they've shortlisted down to 106, which is oom in the 1500's and you've to allow that there will be a few people at that oom.

We know that they took 750ish to stage 3 Dublin from earlier posts in this thread, and that 349 psssed shortlisting.

Seems to me like they took another 750-800 forward for shortlisting and I would assume that means 350-400 have passed shortlisting.

Basically same group size as last time.

ParkRunner

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Self-booking for the next batch doing Stage 3 supervised tests/e-Tray opens tomorrow. How long were the tests on for, last time - a week, wasn't it?

18th - 27th this time I understand am and pm

FlexBrowne

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Got through shortlisting. Surprised and delighted.
Any tips on the format of the next bit?

Me too. How many are going through to Stage 3?

Riskymove

Veledan22 wrote: »

Does anybody know roughly how many candidates got through the shortlisting?

word of mouth is around 350

minky123

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Self-booking for the next batch doing Stage 3 supervised tests/e-Tray opens tomorrow. How long were the tests on for, last time - a week, wasn't it?

yes a week M-F morn and afternoon slots

Veledan22

Does anybody know roughly how many candidates got through the shortlisting?

TaurenDruid

Self-booking for the next batch doing Stage 3 supervised tests/e-Tray opens tomorrow. How long were the tests on for, last time - a week, wasn't it?

Remind me

TaurenDruid wrote: »

What, like it said in the information booklet?

Mind you, jusdging by the numbver of questions asked here that spelled out in the original booklet, not many people actually did read it...

Ah......

prettyboy81

Good to see movement for people with this competition but like all recruitment sad to see the bad news people are receiving at the same time.

I placed poorly and further down the OOM scoring low 90's so not that hopeful of being called for Dublin. Best of luck those heading to do etray and interviews. Whilst not everyone is getting good news nice to see recruitment across the civil and public service in good numbers.

TaurenDruid

Remind me wrote: »

I wonder how much more effort people would have put into their forms if they knew it would be subject to shortlisting

What, like it said in the information booklet?

Mind you, jusdging by the numbver of questions asked here that spelled out in the original booklet, not many people actually did read it...

Riskymove

JDoherty1560 wrote: »

Hi, would there many AP appointments in Limerick and Clare? I can only think of the Dept of Transport in Shannon and the Regional Revenue office in Limerick...

Irish Aid (part of DFA) also in Limerick

tigger123

Remind me wrote: »

I wonder how much more effort people would have put into their forms if they knew it would be subject to shortlisting

If you're not putting your full effort into your form, you probably don't deserve to be shortlisted.

Remind me

Addle wrote: »

In fairness, if they were that excellent, their form should reflect that.

I wonder how much more effort people would have put into their forms if they knew it would be subject to shortlisting

BobCat123

ThumbTaxed wrote: »

I got shortlisted. Anyone want my position?

A packet of Tayto and a can of Fanta will do

Congrats on getting through..what was your oom?

ThumbTaxed

I got shortlisted. Anyone want my position?

A packet of Tayto and a can of Fanta will do