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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html

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It wasnt me123

BBFAN wrote: »

That only looks like a prostitute in your head. It certainly doesn't in mine. :rolleyes:

Do you not think its inappropriate to dress children like an adult would dress on a night out? Are you so naive to think that there aren't people out there that would take that picture and use it for nefarious means.

I think children should be allowed to be children and not mini adults with a face full of make up but like i said before, its celebrity culture - trying to be like some Z lister - but this is where good parenting comes in, sadly lacking in this instance.

[Deleted User]

BBFAN wrote: »

I'll say the same again as I said above, that only looks like a hooker/prostitute in your head because no child looks like a hooker to me. :eek:

And THAT speaks volumes about you and your values.

BBFAN

Deleted User wrote: »

And THAT speaks volumes about you and your values.

It says a lot about ME and MY values that I don't see a child as a prostitute?

If it does I'm glad of that.

normanoffside

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

The mums he's talking about, not the children..

Did you just assume my gender?

It wasnt me123

normanoffside wrote: »

Did you just assume my gender?

yes I did, too lazy to go back and see who posted the original post that BBFan was answering. Was I wrong or are you now going binary???

It wasnt me123

BBFAN wrote: »

It says a lot about ME and MY values that I don't see a child as a prostitute?

If it does I'm glad of that.

Can I ask, are you a parent?

I am and now see paedos everywhere - I have a hightened vigilance to try and ensure that my daughter is never exposed to any possible threat. It didn't work actually because there are feckers everywhere, but I tried my best.

I know that my attitude is more than a little OTT but now I'm a mother its like its in my DNA. I think that might be why some of us think the picture is too much and others see it as a little child pretending to be Beyonce. Just coming at it from different influences.

bada_bing

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Can I ask, are you a parent?

I am and now see paedos everywhere - I have a hightened vigilance to try and ensure that my daughter is never exposed to any possible threat. It didn't work actually because there are feckers everywhere, but I tried my best.

I know that my attitude is more than a little OTT but now I'm a mother its like its in my DNA. I think that might be why some of us think the picture is too much and others see it as a little child pretending to be Beyonce. Just coming at it from different influences.

THIS!!! this is exactly why we should be concerned about girls under the age of 10 dressing inappropriately as paedos are drawn to them like magnets and seek to take advantage of them and will use every trick in the book to lure them.

BBFAN

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Can I ask, are you a parent?

I am and now see paedos everywhere - I have a hightened vigilance to try and ensure that my daughter is never exposed to any possible threat. It didn't work actually because there are feckers everywhere, but I tried my best.

I know that my attitude is more than a little OTT but now I'm a mother its like its in my DNA. I think that might be why some of us think the picture is too much and others see it as a little child pretending to be Beyonce. Just coming at it from different influences.

So that's were you're completely wrong, I'm a mother of three including a girl and I don't see paedos everywhere.

That may be because I don't spend my days on mumsnet though.

It wasnt me123

BBFAN wrote: »

So that's were you're completely wrong, I'm a mother of three including a girl and I don't see paedos everywhere.

That may be because I don't spend my days on mumsnet though.

Not do I, I'm way too old for mumsnet.

I guess we're just different, there's nothing wrong with that - life would be very different if we all agreed about everything, all the time.

ShaneC93

It's not unusual these days to see girls 15, 14, some even 13 to start dressing similarly to go to child discos but 9??!! For a parent to dress their child that way, photograph them in a "provocative" pose and post it to their FB page with 2K friends at only 9 is disgraceful imo.

ShaneC93

Margaret posting about how Travellers are straying from their culture and caring too much about wealth these days while seemingly missing that like half of those points apply to herself aswell.. Sure she was in for a session on the sunbed the very week they went off to the Garda station.

Fiery mutant

My brain hurts after reading that.

Seriously.

[Deleted User]

The black tan comes from injecting themselves with tan. There is an upsurge in Hepatitis diseases from the uainseachs sharing needles!

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

Margaret talking about how the old thick Irish blood runs through Travellers' veins? And at the same time they're an ethnic minority? Make up your mind...

Paddy Cow

"Little children thinking their 25 year old". Did she see the picture she posted last night?

airy fairy

All well dressed kids, all new coordinated shirts, what label are they wearing?
Girl is ott in her poses, she'll be married off in a few years, heels, and a light tan.....at 9?
Mags won't have to look for that 5bed too long, another 2/3 years those kids will be gone, looking for their own free-entitled-to house, and so it goes on and on.

punisher5112

She couldn't have wrote that!!!!!

There is correct spelling for a start.

AllForIt

"Some Wouldn't Know a Rough And Ready Day To Be Honest with YEE". She's clearly has had a few rough and ready days judging by the size of her family.

Funny that she admits that ppl in her community have all the latests smartphones, money for makeup etc. I though they were deprived, they seem to have money for everything they want. She talks about other travellers being greedy for money and talks about being poor as it was a virtue but then complains that the gubberment aren't giving them enough to live adequalty. What a hypocrite.

trashcan

punisher5112 wrote: »

She couldn't have wrote that!!!!!

There is correct spelling for a start.

Ahem, "written". Irony, etc.

punisher5112

trashcan wrote: »

Ahem, "written". Irony, etc.

Ah come on..,.. it was a pun .....

God or jebus why must I have to explain oneself.....

Paddy Cow

AllForIt wrote: »

"Some Wouldn't Know a Rough And Ready Day To Be Honest with YEE". She's clearly has had a few rough and ready days judging by the size of her family.

Funny that she admits that ppl in her community have all the latests smartphones, money for makeup etc. I though they were deprived, they seem to have money for everything they want. She talks about other travellers being greedy for money and talks about being poor as it was a virtue but then complains that the gubberment aren't giving them enough to live adequalty. What a hypocrite.

Anyone who can spend €600 on one suit for a communion and god knows how much more on the other 6, is not poor or hard up. She's such a freeloading hypocrite.

KrustyUCC

Well she did say that's she's not poor she's homeless

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-have-been-constantly-begging-for-help-margaret-cash-on-being-homeless-1.3598174?mode=amp

Of course it is curious that she could afford the communion suit and dress yet she had to steal from Penney's for the children

dermo888

I'm of the opinion Margaret Cash is quite possibly the best thing the 'Alt Right' and potential racists have seen in over a decade.

Almost immediately they can hold her up as a shining example, and this will be used/abused to denigrate and belittle Welfare recipients, Direct Provision claimants, Housing Assistance claimants and the whole ethos and essence of the Welfare State system.

Its true that the Travelling Community DO experience discrimination and have problems. Its down to them to try and solve it, but they can't do it alone. They've to be 'guided' in a sense to a path that is respectful of societal norms, that hard work has just rewards, gains respect in the eyes of your peers and the community as a whole.

But thats going to take time, and for many - the time was yesterday, ten years ago, twenty years ago, and sadly - not much has changed. The same problems are still there, the poverty, the alcoholism, the violence, the general disregard for the rule of law. The abject criminality. Frankly - people's patience ran out, and ran out a long time ago. We tried kindness, love, tolerance, and it has'nt got us very far.

Some of the most heinous nasty crude racist right wing views are held against these fellow citizens of Ireland. I can't repeat them here. I don't want to. They sicken me to the core. I would'nt permit such views to be espoused in front of me about Jews or Homosexuals, so I can't allow it for Travellers either, even if my experiences with Travellers has'nt always been positive or enriching.

And so, we'll go around in circles. The failure is generational, and will be repeated. What chance do her children have? She's doing her best to be a good mother, but its only a matter of time before those children end up repeating the same mistakes. Thats less than two decades away, and the Ireland of that time won't be so tolerant or accepting of nonsense like that.

punisher5112

If you want respect you need to give respect which is something that they need to fix.....

Plumbthedepths

dermo888 wrote:

And so, we'll go around in circles. The failure is generational, and will be repeated. What chance do her children have? She's doing her best to be a good mother, but its only a matter of time before those children end up repeating the same mistakes. Thats less than two decades away, and the Ireland of that time won't be so tolerant or accepting of nonsense like that.

The state providing 'cradle to grave' benefit is also responsible to a degree for the nonsense you speak of.

dermo888

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The state providing 'cradle to grave' benefit is also responsible to a degree for the nonsense you speak of.

"/I]The state providing 'cradle to grave' benefit is also responsible to a degree for the nonsense you speak of."

I know that, and theres increasing resentment of this from the 'squeezed middle', who are lashing out politically using every legal means at their disposal, and thats OUTSIDE Ireland. Its happened in America, France and Britain. Its only a matter of time before its repeated in Ireland.

There are parts of Dublin such as Tyrellstown where the anti social elements should be kept, and the whole place put under martial law, curfews and we can lease these out to the wealthier classes from Britain for example, so they can go hunting. Its a win win scenario. The state saves money on prisons, on law enforcement, on welfare payments, and.......

Plumbthedepths

dermo888 wrote:

There are parts of Dublin such as Tyrellstown where the anti social elements should be kept, and the whole place put under martial law, curfews and we can lease these out to the wealthier classes from Britain for example, so they can go hunting. Its a win win scenario. The state saves money on prisons, on law enforcement, on welfare payments, and.......

I can safely write you off now as a crank based on the hyperbolic bs above .

tuxy

dermo888 wrote: »

Some of the most heinous nasty crude racist right wing views are held against these fellow citizens of Ireland. I can't repeat them here. I don't want to. They sicken me to the core. I would'nt permit such views to be espoused in front of me about Jews or Homosexuals, so I can't allow it for Travellers either, even if my experiences with Travellers has'nt always been positive or enriching.

dermo888 wrote: »

There are parts of Dublin such as Tyrellstown where the anti social elements should be kept, and the whole place put under martial law, curfews and we can lease these out to the wealthier classes from Britain for example, so they can go hunting. Its a win win scenario. The state saves money on prisons, on law enforcement, on welfare payments, and.......

Are these posts by the same person?

mikhail

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but we have a crisis in our education system in this country.

The number of people who couldn't recognise sarcasm if it were labelled in neon pink is staggering.

Mad_maxx

A multi decade fresh strategy is needed to deal with the traveller issue but liberals must be excluded from any input, they completely dictated policy this past three decades and it has been an abject failure.