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st brigid's day, where's all the crosses?

judeboy101

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

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buried

The ancient Festival of Imbolc. Cross the new quarter.

buried

And have a drink and stick on some tunes too

PingTing comes for Fire

Sorry Brigid, but typical female DIY catastrophe.
One single rushe could lash or knot two sticks to make a simple cross in half a minute.

Jurgen Klopp

They were made in all the local primary schools around here anyway I was surprised even tho it was nice to see it.

The odd place that doesn't do them seems to be more of the people aren't as religious so they don't bother.

One thing I'd say OP is there are probably more Irish people complaining in to schools than any foreigners, in fact I've started to notice a lot of the time its eejits of natives who complain that something might be offensive to a immigrant to an area without even asking them, they just assume it. Like they are some sort of moral guardian protecting some delicate little child.

An Indian lad I know ****ed a couple of middle aged wagons out of it cause he heard they said xyz shouldn't be done as it might offend him.

Poor fella was raging and ironically he enjoyed said activities himself.

Ursus Horribilis

We only made St Brigids crosses once when I was in primary school. A school attached to the local convent at that. One year they brought in a retired nun to show us how to make them. It was a bit of fun and much more entertaining than having a maths or a Irish class.

Anesthetize

corner of hells wrote: »

Why was Brigid cross anyway ?

To get to the other side.

Sam Quentin

Ya cant find reeds and rushes anymore,.they built a load of over-priced houses on them...

dxhound2005

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Ya cant find reeds and rushes anymore,.they built a load of over-priced houses on them...

Plenty in Leitrim.

dav3

Listen to all these lads with their fancy talk of reeds and rushes. Notions.

Get down to the local shop and get yourself a load of these.

TomSweeney

El Weirdo wrote: »

Which cultures exactly?

ISLAM !!

Whate else ?

A fascist bigoted ideology that for some reason liberals have cosied up to and love.

Enemy of my enemy I guess - taking to extremes!!

I remember the St. Bridges cross, it was fun making it in school, and was an unusual squarish shape unlike a tradional cross.
But I don't have a problem of the tradition dying out as society becomes more secular - which I trust(hope) is the reason...

4068ac1elhodqr

Good idea to get the young wans in primary schools off the peopletweetface and instantooglegram sites,
helps too with hand to eye co-oridination also, to compete with the autobot2000, whenever they leave education.

Shout out also to The Goddess Brigid, of the Tuatha Dé Danann.

Plastic straws might suffice if you can't run wild across fields of straw and reed.

super_furry

TomSweeney wrote: »

ISLAM !!

Whate else ?

A fascist bigoted ideology that for some reason liberals have cosied up to and love.

Enemy of my enemy I guess - taking to extremes!!

I remember the St. Bridges cross, it was fun making it in school, and was an unusual squarish shape unlike a tradional cross.
But I don't have a problem of the tradition dying out as society becomes more secular - which I trust(hope) is the reason...

Genius!

The Muslamics is stealing our rushes and stopping our kiddies making crosses!!!!

Hotblack Desiato

judeboy101 wrote: »

Obviously your not Irish, so the distinction between st Brigid and Brigid the goddess wouldn't register.

Maybe you went to one of those pagan North Korean schools

I went to an Irish catholic school, so we weren't taught anything about those dirty pagan gods. Apart from they were all going to hell, of course, along with the protestants.

We were told the myth of the St (see what I did there) Brigid's cross, but never made any.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If a catholic school then they Should’ve done the crosses

Then they should’ve sat down the non Catholics attending the school and given an in-depth explanation why their religion is wrong

Then invite them to be baptised as Roman Catholics.

That is sarcasm, right?

Oh and newsflash - some of them might not even have a religion! :eek:

TomSweeney wrote: »

ISLAM !!

Whate else ?

A fascist bigoted ideology that for some reason liberals have cosied up to and love.

This is bollocks. Islam is easily the worst religion going and most atheists are very critical of it. Although, scriptually, the other two Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Christianity are just as bloodthirsty, nasty and sexist - it's just that the vast majority of followers of those two stopped taking scripture literally a very long time ago.

Oh and back on topic, our local prod school made the crosses...

whisky_galore

'Most atheists are very critical of it'

Which religions are well regarded by atheists, one wonders?

Insect Overlord

I've been agnostic since I was a kid, and atheist since I was 14 or 15, but I still had my class making crosses yesterday. It's a great skill, or combination of skills. Fine motor, pencil grip, patterns, it's got the lot. Half of the kids don't believe in Jesus either but they still enjoy the craft.

judeboy101

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Maybe you went to one of those pagan North Korean schools
I went to an Irish catholic school, so we weren't taught anything about those dirty pagan gods. Apart from they were all going to hell, of course, along with the protestants.

We were told the myth of the St (see what I did there) Brigid's cross, but never made any.

That is sarcasm, right?

Oh and newsflash - some of them might not even have a religion! :eek:

This is bollocks. Islam is easily the worst religion going and most atheists are very critical of it. Although, scriptually, the other two Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Christianity are just as bloodthirsty, nasty and sexist - it's just that the vast majority of followers of those two stopped taking scripture literally a very long time ago.

Oh and back on topic, our local prod school made the crosses...

Of course you are, with a username like that. We all know what's on your mind, ya dirty fecker

Mrsmum

St Brigid is the female equivalent of St Patrick as one of Ireland's patron saints. He gets a whole day being celebrated. Poor St Brigid is begrudged a few rushes. Typical !

Seriously though the cross which predates Christianity is quite beautiful imo and must surely be one of our oldest customs so would be a shame I think to let it die out.

judeboy101

whisky_galore wrote: »

'Most atheists are very critical of it'

Which religions are well regarded by atheists, one wonders?

They worship at the high altar of political correctness.

Beechwoodspark

No. Not sarcasm

If kids are in a RCC school then they should expect RCC education.

Hotblack Desiato

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I've been agnostic since I was a kid, and atheist since I was 14 or 15, but I still had my class making crosses yesterday.

Under Irish law, you can come out as gay and keep your teaching job, but if you come out as agnostic or atheist your employer has the legal right to sack you

This is still a very fûcked up country

Hotblack Desiato

whisky_galore wrote: »

'Most atheists are very critical of it'

Which religions are well regarded by atheists, one wonders?

Buddhism is actually followed by a few atheists (not me though, hell:pac: no) as you don't have to actually believe in a god.

Contrary to their popular image in the West though, buddhists are not all about peace and love, some of them are right cnuts.

The theistic religions are worse than the non-theistic, the monotheistic religions are worse than the polytheistic, the Abrahamic monotheistic religions are worse than the non-Abrahamic monotheistic religions, and Islam is the worst of the Abrahamic religions. Happy now?

Lisha

Our local school used to make the Bridget crosses every year and give them to older people in the locality. ‘‘Twas a great little fundraiser and the oldies loved it. The new principal stopped it due to concerns that the children could pick up Weil’s disease from the rushes. I can understand the principal’s concerns but it’s a pity.

4068ac1elhodqr

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Buddhism is actually followed by a few atheists (not me though, hell:pac: no) as you don't have to actually believe in a god.

Do you believe in anything 'god-like' at all, or await eternal darkness / reincarnation / other, when your times up on planet Earth?

Hotblack Desiato

Mrsmum wrote: »

St Brigid is the female equivalent of St Patrick as one of Ireland's patron saints

We could do with an excuse for a good piss-up at this time of year, nights are still long and spring is not here yet. +1 for Bridgies Day and it already has a marketable symbol so this is something Failte Ireland can really get behind if we make it a public holiday

super_furry

Where have all the crosses gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the crosses gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the crosses gone?
Girls MUSLAMICS have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Ipso

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

No. Not sarcasm

If kids are in a RCC school then they should expect RCC education.

How is a RCC school defined?

Hotblack Desiato

Aliyah Dry Savant wrote: »

Do you believe in anything 'god-like' at all

Nope

or wait eternal darkness / reincarnation / other, when your times up on planet Earth?

Well the universe has been around for 14 or 15 billion years, and for most of that I didn't exist. I don't know how long the universe has got to go, if it's finite, but it's in the billions and for most of that I won't exist either. I don't imagine I'll be any more troubled by non-existence after my death than I was by non-existence before my birth.

4068ac1elhodqr

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Nope

Interesting, by 'god-like' one could include other forms of 'more-inteligent' life forms across the universe (50bn habitable planets, just in our local galaxy).

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Well the universe has been around for 14 or 15 billion years, and for most of that I didn't exist..

From you're current limited understanding, or memory recall capabilities, in your current human form.

As an insurance policy maybe you should make that cross, rub a budda, pet a dog, or bang on a singing bowl, instead of gleefully awaiting eternal darkness.

Hotblack Desiato

Aliyah Dry Savant wrote: »

Interesting, by 'god-like' one could include other forms of 'more-inteligent' life forms across the universe (50bn habitable planets, just in our local galaxy).

From you're current limited understanding, or memory recall capabilities, in your current human form.

As an insurance policy maybe you should make that cross, rub a budda, pet a dog, or bang on a singing bowl, instead of gleefully awaiting eternal darkness.

This is the standard "god of the gaps" crapology extended into interstellar space :rolleyes:

Ancient man couldn't explain fire... god
couldn't explain day and night... god
couldn't explain tides... god
couldn't explain planetary motion... god
anything they couldn't explain... god

You're just doing the same, which is proof I suppose of the theory that we're not really any smarter than ancient man, we just know more things.

I can't rule out the existence of any of the things your have mentioned, but I didn't, I just don't believe in them and unless and until there is any evidence of their existence I'd be stupid to believe in them.

I doubt any intergalactic intelligence should it exist would be too impressed with your cross/buddha/dog etc.

BuboBubo

The local primary school made loads of them on Monday, and they are for sale in the local shop to raise funds for the school.

Plenty of bulrushes here in rural Carlow, I supplied a bucket myself to the neighbours kids. Loved making them when I was a kid.

Sit down with the kids tomorrow and make them yourselves. Some great ideas in previous posts using straws, wooden sticks etc if you've no bulrushes around. I've seen them made from barley straw too.