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Does Ireland have a drug problem or not?

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Not another Ireland bashing thread but just curious. When I mean drugs, I mean anything besides alcohol and weed. Lots of gents/gals in my college (won't say where) would be taking coke, mdma, and some even strong opiates like hydro and oxy (though apparently not as common here in western europe as it is in the U.S.)

There body, there choice but there is a limit no? I don't think there's a worse problem here with drug abuse but maybe I'm wrong because the consensus seems to vary in different circles. Older folks with think anyone who snorts the white stuff is out of their mind and is going no where except on the streets whereas in circles of 25-40yr old businessmen in London and here, that's the norm x3 a week.

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Foweva Awone

Anyone who says we don't, I envy your sheltered life!

Amirani

howsitgoingboy wrote: »

Yes i'd assume so. But 'a bit' could be just a puff of a joint. That's what i was wondering. Surely getting high would lead you to not being in control of some of your actions? therefore that's why it shouldn't be legalized.

There's lot of substances that are legal that lead you to not being in control of some of your actions. That's a pretty low bar to set when considering legalisation.

Amirani

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, it's more a case of how I know what I know, than a case of what I do.

It also amazes me how my posts only ever "not make sense" to people who never do drugs. Strange one that...

In fairness, if you live outside the country and you're only potentially trying to access drugs from time to time in Ireland, you're going to have quite a different view of things.

It's pretty easy to access drugs in Dublin, from I'd say mid-teens onwards. Most people (in a boys school anyway) would go to school with someone who sells or at least a few people who know people who sell. If you're on a sports team or have a large enough group of friends outside school, it's going to be even easier.

Yeah, if you're a teenager asking randomers on the street, you're not going to get anything. Even if you ask people who are selling, they often wouldn't sell to young people. It's different though when you have connections that are friends. Same applies for buying smaller amounts or splitting up amounts among a group of friends.

For adults trying to get drugs in Dublin, it just takes a bit of common sense and confidence to be honest, it's really not difficult.

KERSPLAT!

dodderangler wrote: »

Yes of course there’s a drug problem. It’s blatantly obvious. I’d say about 70% of people in a pub at any time is on coke. Weed hash is no longer a massive issue. Coke is the main problem. MDMA is more s country thing. Ketamine is huge among younger groups. 18-25 year olds. Because it’s cheap as ****.
Speaking from my past as someone that couldn’t go for s pint without cocaine it’s too easy to get and doesn’t take much persuasion to get some.
So yes we do have s massive drug problem

70%!? Where exactly did you get that figure from?

SortingYouOut

turdball wrote: »

Maybe I don't go to the **** holes that you do but 70 per cent of every pub in Ireland?? Come on like that is ridiculous.

What drug are you on now?

It's a known fact that 120% of internet statistics are exaggerated.

turdball

dodderangler wrote: »

Bars? How American of you. Guess you don’t live in Dublin either do you. I was in the pub last night and there was lads in their 60s in sniffing away. Groups of young lads going in together and sniffing away. So yes I reckon about 70% of people do it in a pub.

Maybe I don't go to the **** holes that you do but 70 per cent of every pub in Ireland?? Come on like that is ridiculous. You do realize that's 7 out of 10 people are taking coke. This stat is ridicolous.

What drug are you on now?

dodderangler

howsitgoingboy wrote: »

Yes i'd assume so. But 'a bit' could be just a puff of a joint. That's what i was wondering. Surely getting high would lead you to not being in control of some of your actions? therefore that's why it shouldn't be legalized.

Same can be said about alcohol though. When drunk you’re not fully aware of your actions. Do we ban the hooch now?

yourdeadwright

SortingYouOut wrote: »

They're dead right though, I've seen a number of different friend groups grow up through college (in the last 5 years) and the go to were cheaper drugs like E's, Ket and MDMA, as it was muck cheap.

These same groups now have moved on to Coke because they can afford it with full time jobs.

Times are changing , the older teens are into now as i said just google teen arrested Dublin for coke you'd be there for a month reading cases,

Some people here where saying about the expensive of it,
It'll no doubt go the way of Liverpool , Manchester and lots of England ,where people gladly sell bags for 20 pounds, as that's what the younger crowd want as it more affordable

As country its better to take the stand that there is a problem and it is rampant its the only way that anything will be done about it,

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

greenspurs wrote: »

I think youre just here to declare you take drugs ? Because most of the rest of your posts don't make sense, and aren't realistic !!

Well, it's more a case of how I know what I know, than a case of what I do.

It also amazes me how my posts only ever "not make sense" to people who never do drugs. Strange one that...

SortingYouOut

howsitgoingboy wrote: »

Yes i'd assume so. But 'a bit' could be just a puff of a joint. That's what i was wondering. Surely getting high would lead you to not being in control of some of your actions? therefore that's why it shouldn't be legalized.

Well it leaves people in much more control of their actions than alcohol does. I think it should be legalised and regulated like alcohol.

Tiguan Joe

No.Not at all.The war on drugs solved that problem.

howsitgoingboy

Sleepy wrote: »

Our main problem with most drugs is that we allow illegal drug dealers to sell them instead of legalising them and reaping the taxation benefits. I'm a 38 year old man, if I want to smoke a bit of marijuana that shouldn't be anyone else's business unless I get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence (or similar).

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Is getting 'high' not the point of smoking the stuff?

Yes i'd assume so. But 'a bit' could be just a puff of a joint. That's what i was wondering. Surely getting high would lead you to not being in control of some of your actions? therefore that's why it shouldn't be legalized.

dodderangler

SortingYouOut wrote: »

70% is a ridiculous figure.

Go to any pub in Dublin and you’ll agree with me. Go even during the week. It’s feckin rampant. There are lads outside my pub most nights waiting for others to buy off them. Blatantly obvious that they’re doing it. It’s ridiculous. Guess the garda are too busy checking our tax discs.

SortingYouOut

dodderangler wrote: »

Bars? How American of you. Guess you don’t live in Dublin either do you. I was in the pub last night and there was lads in their 60s in sniffing away. Groups of young lads going in together and sniffing away. So yes I reckon about 70% of people do it in a pub.

70% is a ridiculous figure.

raze_them_all_

Shoelaces wrote: »

Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.

You are very very very wrong about the crack

greenspurs

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Not doubting the first bit - E is much cheaper and much easier to get that cocaine. I'd rather pay more though, than buy something when "God only knows what;s in them".

The last part is is bull**** though. Why the hell would someone risk jail and **** knows what else to sell at "dirt cheap" prices...?

I think youre just here to declare you take drugs ? Because most of the rest of your posts don't make sense, and aren't realistic !!

SortingYouOut

howsitgoingboy wrote: »

Just a general Q to your point. I know you said a 'a bit' of marijuana but what about the people who don't want 'a bit' and want more until they're high. Would it not get out of hand a bit? Just being curious.

Is getting 'high' not the point of smoking the stuff?

dodderangler

turdball wrote: »

Coke is not the choice for younger people. Ketamine,Speed(horrible drug) and the number one drugs ecstacy and Weed.

And about people talking about it openly on a sports team, doesn't happen.

Coke is more of a drug for the middle class, it's not abused as much as pills and Ketamine by younger people

And 70% of people in bars are on coke? Haha,

Bars? How American of you. Guess you don’t live in Dublin either do you. I was in the pub last night and there was lads in their 60s in sniffing away. Groups of young lads going in together and sniffing away. So yes I reckon about 70% of people do it in a pub.

SortingYouOut

yourdeadwright wrote: »

" Coke is more of a drug for the middle class " 1990 is that you ?

They're dead right though, I've seen a number of different friend groups grow up through college (in the last 5 years) and the go to were cheaper drugs like E's, Ket and MDMA, as it was muck cheap.

These same groups now have moved on to Coke because they can afford it with full time jobs.

howsitgoingboy

Sleepy wrote: »

Our main problem with most drugs is that we allow illegal drug dealers to sell them instead of legalising them and reaping the taxation benefits. I'm a 38 year old man, if I want to smoke a bit of marijuana that shouldn't be anyone else's business unless I get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence (or similar).

Just a general Q to your point. I know you said a 'a bit' of marijuana but what about the people who don't want 'a bit' and want more until they're high. Would it not get out of hand a bit? Just being curious.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

enricoh wrote: »

No offence princess consuela but u haven't a clue.
U can get 4 e's for a tenner where i am, god only knows whats in them. All the new designer drugs dirt cheap too.
Difficult to get - hilarious, harder for a 15 year old to get cans than drugs.

Not doubting the first bit - E is much cheaper and much easier to get that cocaine. I'd rather pay more though, than buy something when "God only knows what;s in them".

The last part is is bull**** though. Why the hell would someone risk jail and **** knows what else to sell at "dirt cheap" prices...?

yourdeadwright

turdball wrote: »

Coke is not the choice for younger people. Ketamine,Speed(horrible drug) and the number one drugs ecstacy and Weed.

And about people talking about it openly on a sports team, doesn't happen.

Coke is more of a drug for the middle class, it's not abused as much as pills and Ketamine by younger people

And 70% of people in bars are on coke? Haha,

" Coke is more of a drug for the middle class " 1990 is that you ?

Sleepy

Our main problem with most drugs is that we allow illegal drug dealers to sell them instead of legalising them and reaping the taxation benefits. I'm a 38 year old man, if I want to smoke a bit of marijuana that shouldn't be anyone else's business unless I get behind the wheel of a car whilst under the influence (or similar).

magic_murph

Muckka wrote: »

Of course, sure I did.
Nothing better than being a novelty, I was intrigued with them as much as they me.

OMG - you bucked a junkie. Puke :-)

turdball

Coke is not the choice for younger people. Ketamine,Speed(horrible drug) and the number one drugs ecstacy and Weed.

And about people talking about it openly on a sports team, doesn't happen.

Coke is more of a drug for the middle class, it's not abused as much as pills and Ketamine by younger people

And 70% of people in bars are on coke? Haha,

Chancer3001

The vast majority of people's heroes are on drugs

Johnny cash, eminem, chill peppers and the Beatles are my favourite artists. Every type of drug.

I like the rock. Christian bale. Steroids.

I listen to a bit of joe rogan podcasts. Loads of drugs.

The vast majority of international reality tv stars use or used drugs

yourdeadwright

dodderangler wrote: »

Guess you don’t live in Dublin then do you

I refuse to believe someone is that far from reality
I think she is just arguing for the sake of arguing .

The line about a drug dealer wouldn't sell to someone who looks under 18 is taking the absolute mick ,

dodderangler

Shoelaces wrote: »

Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.

Guess you don’t live in Dublin then do you

enricoh

No offence princess consuela but u haven't a clue.
U can get 4 e's for a tenner where i am, god only knows whats in them. All the new designer drugs dirt cheap too.
Difficult to get - hilarious, harder for a 15 year old to get cans than drugs.

yourdeadwright

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Another ad homeinem. Guess you don't, then.

Its freighting how unware people are,

You didn't answer any of my question

Could a 17/18 teen not afford 40 euro on a weekend ?
Did you use your google machine there and just have look at the ages of dealers being caught daily ?

Have you ever been around a large group of 17-18 lads from Dublin , Cork wherever do you honestly think they would be shy about talking about the local going on's ?

You think drugs are hard to get in Dublin , im not joking when i say one text into a wat's ap group for these teens and they would be sorted,

It's a horrible cancer on our society and its a scary place to raise kids in as if we keep sticking our heads in the sand like yourself there, it will only get worse,
As a parent it worries me greatly for my own kids when they are late teens in school but hopefully the fact im not blissfully ignorant of it may help me steer them away form it ,