pwurple wrote: » I'd put solid money on Male, hands-off parent. a couple of kids, barely saw them as newborns. No paternity leave, wifey did it all out of sight.
Blakely Quaint Sand wrote: » Is this a recent phenomenon or has it always been the case? I'm beyond this phase in my life but I have friends/colleagues/acquaintances who seem to think that the world revolves around their kids nap or feeding times. I was invited to a christening and at 11.30am, the mother a child left the christening to bring the baby home because nap time was between 12 and 2pm. So what was the point in having a Christening if you're just going to go home! A friend invited themselves over to the house to introduce their new baby, she turns up 90 minutes late with the explanation that the child was asleep and couldn't be woke!!! So I have to organise my life around when your 6 month old child decides to wake up??? A new colleague has joined after moving back to Ireland from Australia where the baby was born. She's married with one child and is living in her parents while the house they bought is being renovated for the past year. Anyway, I can hear her chewing the balls off her father and snarking down the phone at the mother if the child isn't asleep at nap time or had it's arse wiped a certain way! Another one was when we were INVITED over to a friends house, everybody had to whisper because the baby was having their nap and couldn't be woke. Do they not realise that it's a self fulfilling prophecy, if you tip toe around the house then you are creating an environment where the child will wake up whereas if you proceed as normal the kid will adapt to the noise? What is the matter with these people that their kids are so precious where everyone has to tip toe around their timetable and sleeping habits or God forbid that a child might hear a loud voice!?!
Gazzmonkey wrote: » Also your opinion is irrelevant if you don't have kids.
McCrack wrote: » Or another I have seen is the parent literally hovering obsessively over their kid as they play/move around
McCrack wrote: » Leaving aside the OP's issue I can say what irritates me is when I am in company with a parent and young child having a conversation etc and the kid pipes up and the adult cuts the conversation and completely focuses on the kid to placate them Or another I have seen is the parent literally hovering obsessively over their kid as they play/move around
Gazzmonkey wrote: » You have so not a clue what your talking about. The world doesn't revolve around you. Also your opinion is irrelevant if you don't have kids.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » Irrelevant only because, ridiculously, the world now revolves around kids.People need to realise that by and large, your children are really unexceptional. And taking a global view, unnecessary.
Blakely Quaint Sand wrote: » So what you've attempted to say is that babies fall asleep and when they wake up they cry for food and therefore the world must come to a standstill. Thank you for haring the most basic knowledge of child rearing.
Blakely Quaint Sand wrote: » You just highlighted the problem. The "routine of a new born". They don't have routines.
rgmmg wrote: » Irrespective, the parent is responsible for the kid. I don't think neglect would stand up in court if a parent cited the reason being the kid was unexceptional. No exceptions
garv123 wrote: » When I was in school, a decade ago, we were terrified that we'd get a letter home to our parents if we got in trouble, and we'd get in trouble for it at home...These days Children go home and tell their parents that the teacher gave out to them, and an awful lot of parents give out to the teacher for picking on their little johnny.. Snowflakes!!! Don't even start on that educate together sh!te!!
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Those parents always existed.
garv123 wrote: » An awful lot more of them nowadays.
Candie wrote: » Of course the world comes to a standstill, they can't look after themselves. That's where the parenting comes in, not putting the feelings of an adult over the survival of a child. They get hungry, they dehydrate, they need someone to take care of these things, not let them suffer so you're not even mildly inconvenienced. Yeah they do, they need lots of sleep and regular food and sometimes that's on a schedule and sometimes it's on their on schedule. Either way, you're not the important factor in their routine, and most adults can be reasonably expected to have some understanding of how difficult timing things is for new parents. It's not always about you.
garv123 wrote: » When I was in school, a decade ago, we were terrified that we'd get a letter home to our parents if we got in trouble, and we'd get in trouble for it at home... These days Children go home and tell their parents that the teacher gave out to them, and an awful lot of parents give out to the teacher for picking on their little johnny.. Snowflakes!!! Don't even start on that educate together sh!te!!
Muckka wrote: » It's just another brick in the wall. My Jason wouldn't kick anyone. Jason is now doing a long stretch at her majesty's pleasure over in England... My Caroline isn't a brat. Caroline is now a drug addict alcoholic and has a lot of convictions. My Barry shouldn't be expelled. No Barry's spending all his time between the pub and the bookies. My Fiona isn't a brat. Fiona now runs a successful business in Dublin, raising a good family and still married to Richard Muckka is a bit of a clown and think's everything is funny always interupting the class sniggering and laughing, he doesn't take school seriously....Muckka is.....
uch wrote: » Getting the back of the hand from Teacher
Blakely Quaint Sand wrote: » That's where you're wrong. Your world might come to a standstill but mine doesn't.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » I understand all that. 'Responsible for the kid' means responsible for preparing them for life, though. No ? You won't get a medal for coming last, the score does matter, you are not the centre of the universe... etc
Candie wrote: » I don't have kids. I can make allowances for people who do though, it's unpredictable and difficult and a huge responsibility and it's not hard to just cut people some slack when they're going through a life changing transition in early parenthood. Be a friend to your friends, try to understand their lives have changed and their priorities are keeping the kid alive and keeping themselves sane first and foremost.
Muckka wrote: » They should be sane if they're bringing up kid's.
Candie wrote: » I think lack of sleep makes it tough to stay sane at times when people have new babies. I'd cut people a lot of slack if they're late or have to change plans when they have new babies. It's more important that they're okay, get some sleep, the baby is doing well etc.
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