Calls for Graham Linehan to be removed from Prime Debate on transgender issues!

He's a mad looking bastard all the same..His head kind of looks like he spends too much time arguing with idiots on the internet..

JMNolan

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Why would you expect the numbers to be replicated?

Answering a question with another question is a crappy way to debate

[Deleted User] wrote: »

First, the extraordinary number of teenage females who identify as male and how this is not replicated in the number of males who identify as female. Why? How is this explained?

Why would you expect the numbers to be replicated?

Grayson

ceadaoin. wrote: »

No but it allows people to challenge why they might be in facilities of the wrong gender or make them think twice about taking the chance. In the UK most sexual assaults in facilities like that take place in unisex ones. It's all about opportunity

How many of them were by trans people? Because unless you can say what you're advocating is keeping men away from woman because men are a danger.

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Because he (it's always a man) is an attention seeking twat. I don't like people like that.

There's a 40 something man in America who 'identifies' as a little girl. He's a freak, the absolute state of him

The person in the show who identified as non-binary was born female. After Prime Time, I turned over to Naked Attraction to see another person who was born female who identified as non-binary.

So based on the sample size of 2 from last night's TV, your claim of "always a man" is 100% wrong.

Sonic Youth wrote: »

The article says unisex facilities are becoming more and more common so as to appease transsexuals

Here's a simple idea, have separate facilities for men and women.

Do you believe everything you read in the papers?

Unless you know what proportion of pools have unisex changing rooms in the first place, you (and the authors) have no basis for their claim that they are more dangerous. They may well just be more common.

But well done on swallowing an article designed to stir things up. That's a great example of why Brexit happened BTW.

freshpopcorn

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Did you listen to what the mother said? Her despair about "why couldn't you just be gay"?

Did that sound like she had suggested the whole thing?

Partly yes.
People are very quick to label everything I find and that's just my take on it.

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Well in my opinion it was all very suggestive from the parents/family.
It was like x is a little different so let's label him.

Did you listen to what the mother said? Her despair about "why couldn't you just be gay"?

Did that sound like she had suggested the whole thing?

Calhoun wrote: »

Well they want to target kids as young as 12 with some fairly ****ed up drugs, also want to remove psychiatrist from the whole process before getting to this.

So I'd say the harm is to society overall.

I'd also go and far as saying their limited grasp of biology is dangerous when having an opinion on this subject.

Neither of the issues that you mentioned - drugs and gatekeeping - have anything to do with non-binary.. Those issues apply to the broad issue.

So really, what is your particular problem with people who declare themselves non-binary?

RabbleRouser2k

Didn't watch it, had other places to be-but did they talk to any psychologists or experts on gender dysphoria, or transitioning?

Like, Graham is just a writer-he's not a doctor, he's not a psychologist. He wrote bloody Fr Ted.

Did it mention how he worked so hard to get a trans charity called Mermaids from being given funding by the National Lottery (in the UK, not in Ireland)?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/mermaids-trans-charity-children-big-lottery-fund-support-transphobia-graham-linehan-a8688701.html

He would have been the first one on the TV screaming his head off if someone had defunded an abortion charity-tweeting away at how disgraceful it is, draconian etc...
And yet here he was blocking folks from getting the much needed counselling they need.

James1888

In what way do you mean prepare to suspend reality, the madness in the whole LGBT agenda on minors? Or the scientific fact that your brain isn't fully developed until 25. This sickness is being brought in to primary schools starting in September, it part of the "inclusive ciriculam" of the new sex ed program. Its sickening to think the whole way through that crap rte ****show that was just on and all the questioning they done about why this was happening. 2 mins of research and you have your answer. Brainwashed by idiot so called liberal documentarys on youtube plus poor diets and health Inc mental health no exercise and underdeveloped brains = testosterone and estrogen levels all over the place and causing feminine men and masculine women. Eat some bloody steaks people

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Hang on, I thought the term transsexual is offensive now?You'll even find people who call themselves transsexual on the receiving end of abuse from trans activists, and labelled "Tru scum" etc

Omg, that's kids(I call teenagers\young adults kids

) getting all SJW on their own community. Idiots who do not represent the transgender community, attention seekers having too much online access in other words !

Sonic Youth wrote: »

I read it just fine. Unisex changing rooms are more dangerous for women. They're becoming more common to appease the transgender/transexual/transwhatever lobby.

I hope women can stand up to this rubbish.

Yes, I agree about the dangers of unisex rooms.
The problem is your interpretation of what transgender actually is in reality, transsexuals are not the danger to women, they have the female body of their preferred gender. The likes of Linehan and a few here oppose those who have not medically transitioned being in women's spaces, that is those who retain male body parts.

ceadaoin.

klaaaz wrote: »

You misunderstood. Read it again, the poorly written article refers to transgender people in general, not specifically transsexual people as they are not mentioned. Fyi, transgender people include those who have not medically transitioned and those who have medically transitioned(transsexuals), quite a difference in the visual makeup of the human bodies there!

Hang on, I thought the term transsexual is offensive now?You'll even find people who call themselves transsexual on the receiving end of abuse from trans activists, and labelled "Tru scum" etc

klaaaz wrote: »

You misunderstood. Read it again, the poorly written article refers to transgender people in general, not specifically transsexual people as they are not mentioned. Fyi, transgender people include those who have not medically transitioned and those who have medically transitioned(transsexuals), quite a difference in the visual makeup of the human bodies there!

I read it just fine. Unisex changing rooms are more dangerous for women. They're becoming more common to appease the transgender/transexual/transwhatever lobby.

I hope women can stand up to this rubbish.

Brego888

Bit odd that Linehan should be on it. But he did speak the truth.

Sonic Youth wrote: »

The article says unisex facilities are becoming more and more common so as to appease transsexuals

Here's a simple idea, have separate facilities for men and women.

You misunderstood. Read it again, the poorly written article refers to transgender people in general, not specifically transsexual people as they are not mentioned. Fyi, transgender people include those who have not medically transitioned and those who have medically transitioned(transsexuals), quite a difference in the visual makeup of the human bodies there!

ceadaoin.

klaaaz wrote: »

What's that got to do with transsexuals who have medically transitioned? Those assaults were committed by men.

I brought it up in response to this post

ceebee1981 wrote: »

Do you think the gender of a changing room or a toilet is currently stopping rapists?

Just to point out that more attacks occur in unisex facilities so clearly it does matter what the gender of the room is. Seperated by sex, or gender if you must, results in less incidents.

donkeykong5

Señor Santa Pants wrote: »

Graham is right.

So is heather.

take everything

professore wrote: »

I thought it was good overall and Graham Linehan added some balance to it. Disappointed the promised debate never materialised.

Very interesting that there is an explosion in girls wanting to transition. Wonder why that is? I think mass hysteria could be a reason, or a backlash against the ridiculous Instagram culture that is almost exclusively the preserve of teenage girls. But I'm just spitballing here.

That was the one thing that I was surprised at as well.
Anyone know why there is such a big proportion of girls wanting to change gender.

Very Freudian (his penis envy stuff may not actually be rubbish).
It parallels the female empowerment stuff we get told about every day.

This is just me but I came away thinking what do the likes of my parents generation make of it all. Has the world gone nuts.

No issue if someone genuinely wants to transition (like the guy with the dog) but the idea that a large cohort of young girls want to transition baffles me. At first glance, that strikes me as a social phenomenon not purely biological.

ceadaoin.

ceebee1981 wrote: »

You also said It's all about opportunity, how far do you take that logic?

The report also doesn’t mention the sexes of the victims or the perpetrators.

It's obvious that places where people are in a state of undress and that are unisex are at particular risk of attracting sexual predators. Those stats back it up.

It mentioned the sex of the victims, the headline says "unisex changing rooms put women at risk", so I'm going to assume the victims were female. Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure the majority of those perpetrators would have been male. Unless there has been an unprecedented surge in women commiting sex assaults and in unisex changing rooms in particular.

Calhoun

gmisk wrote: »

That poster was talking about non binary people for a start not trans.
Look you get eejits from all walks of life, a few idiots should not lead to labelling an entire group.

I agree entirely on your 2nd paragraph, children should be let live their lives as they want without any external coercion and most definitely no one should be having surgery til they are an adult.

This thread is clearly going to turn into another one to bash!lgbt people like the one about some bloody child drag queen (which I like any gay person I have talked to agree is grotesque).

Listen the politics of the day are such that the transgressions of a small group reflect the bigger picture. We have Gillette basically having a go at men telling them not to be default rapists and to stand up for women. This was applauded by most of the mainstream media and people who are into social justice. Why is one group judged on a whole where as another is not?

The children aspect of this is the only thing i really care about, adults can be adults be who they want to be and out of genuine respect for people i will call them whatever they want. I start loosing my tolerance with the whole thing when it comes to the children and some of the crap we see oversees like the Canadian law on child welfare.

As for the drag queen, we have had 2 incidents in the past couple of weeks. A Canadian drag queen kid (10) appearing in a photoshoot with a naked man, and an American drag queen kid (11) appearing in a gay bar. Imagine for one second if both these incidents had been straight males would the reaction be the same in the media? There would have been at best universal condemnation at worst the lads involved would be flagged for child safety reason, instead what we see is promotion of it.

klaaaz wrote: »

What's that got to do with transsexuals who have medically transitioned? Those assaults were committed by men.

The article says unisex facilities are becoming more and more common so as to appease transsexuals

Here's a simple idea, have separate facilities for men and women.

Sonic Youth wrote: »

I'm taking about the article that was posted showing unisex facilities are more dangerous for women.

What's that got to do with transsexuals who have medically transitioned? Those assaults were committed by men.

gmisk wrote: »

So your jealous of the attention? Maybe you need to chill out.

Yes that's right I'm jealous of a weirdo.

And there's no such thing as 'non-binary'. Male or female, that's it.

Signore Fancy Pants

Graham is right.

gmisk

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Because he (it's always a man) is an attention seeking twat. I don't like people like that.

There's a 40 something man in America who 'identifies' as a little girl. He's a freak, the absolute state of him

So your jealous of the attention? Maybe you need to chill out. Your lumping all non binary people together, do you think that is fair?

How Soon Is Now

Ah I'm sure if we just ignore half of this stuff it will go away.

Give it few years the trans stuff will be overshadowed by some other out there bull****.

gmisk wrote: »

What about a nut who thinks she's neither a man or a woman?
Why do you care so much? I doubt they would entertain you either, live and let live.
Just because you don't understand or relate to someone like that why would you dislike them so much or be so dismissive?

Because he (it's always a man) is an attention seeking twat. I don't like people like that.

There's a 40 something man in America who 'identifies' as a little girl. He's a freak, the absolute state of him