klaaaz wrote: » What you on about, the objectors on the program had no problems with transexuals, they(like Linehan) have a problem with the self-id trans, those who have had no medical transition and retain their born genitalia.
Sonic Youth wrote: » Women are being sold down the river in order to appease the transsexuals.
Sonic Youth wrote: » I won't entertain a nut who thinks he's neither man nor woman.
ceadaoin. wrote: » 120 out of 134 took place in the actual unisex changing rooms, it's just what I said in my post. You questioned where I got the stats so I showed you and you focus on the fact that some assaults happened in corridors? Ok then.
Sonic Youth wrote: » According to RTE 50 or so losers were protesting outside the studio.
Calhoun wrote: » They as in the trans people on the program advocating for children as young as 12 to self identify and to remove psychiatrists from the equation. I wouldn't quite call them the child catcher but fairly predatory alright. Adults can decide how they want to live its up to them to do what they want. I would think most have an issue with the Trans conversation wading into the area of children. Now now trying to strawman, you must be mad.
ceebee1981 wrote: » “46 cases, sexual assault allegations were made about attacks in other areas such as in the pool, in a sports hall or corridors.” We should just ban men and woman being in the same room at any time’ “It's all about opportunity”
ceadaoin. wrote: » The original full article is behind a paywall but here is another report referencing ithttps://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
gmisk wrote: » They?!? Who are they? non binary people? Lumping non binary people into one big group is bizarre, your making them sound like the bloody childcatcher. I specifically said adults as you well know. Why are you so pissed off at how an adult chooses to live their life? Do you also hate gay people? Bi people? Sure would they not pick one gender to fancy?!?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » So what? What is the significance of this for you? So do you think maybe that you were different in a different way to the Wexford lad was different?
[Deleted User] wrote: » Fast forward to today and the bull**** I see around this issue is unreal, and thanks to social media as usual it has all the wrong kinds of people attached to it making the most noise. There is debate to be had for sure but not like it's being had here and elsewhere.
gmisk wrote: » Why would that annoy you? Maybe the issue is yours not theirs? Who the hell cares what way an adult wants to live their life, what business is it of yours? What harm are they doing to you?
professore wrote: I would be dead against medical intervention for kids younger than 18 but identifying as the other gender I'd have no issue with.
Berserker wrote: I have no issue with and respect transgender people. It's entirely possible that they could have been born in the wrong body, in my mind but this non-binary stuff is a step too far for me.
Calhoun wrote: » Well they want to target kids as young as 12 with some fairly ****ed up drugs, also want to remove psychiatrist from the whole process before getting to this. So I'd say the harm is to society overall.
ceebee1981 wrote: » Where are you pulling that statistic from?
The vast majority of reported sexual assaults at public swimming pools in the UK take place in unisex changing rooms, new statistics reveal. The data, obtained through a Freedom of Information request by the Sunday Times, suggests that unisex changing rooms are more dangerous for women and girls than single-sex facilities Just under 90 per cent of complaints regarding changing room sexual assaults, voyeurism and harassment are about incidents in unisex facilities What’s more, two thirds of all sexual attacks at leisure centres and public swimming pools take place in unisex changing rooms. Of 134 complaints over 2017-2018, 120 reported incidents took place in gender-neutral changing rooms and just 14 were in single-sex changing areas.
statesaver wrote: » A lot of the kids who have gender dysphoria have autism
freshpopcorn wrote: » AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do you think maybe that you were different in a different way to the Wexford lad was different? I'd have being considered very different to the norm when I was in 6th class for a teenage lad. The programs I'd have liked may for being considered a bit feminine and I wasn't sporty but none of my family every questioned this. They just took it I was that way.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do you think maybe that you were different in a different way to the Wexford lad was different?
Calhoun wrote: » Yer man with his gender non-binary, annoys the ****e out of me pick one or the other.
satstheway wrote: » Teen years are bad enough (image and all) and then one day a parent asks you ARE YOU GAY. FFS. Why not hand them a rope.
conorhal wrote: » Could this new clinical growth industry, which is drenched in activist raised money, also partly explain the sudden growth in diagnoses?
Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: » Something very Stasi like with trying to shut down the debate. Get people not to watch Primetime and protests outside by LabourYouth. Regardless of your opinion it is an issue that has the right to be donated and people want and need to be informed.
Berserker wrote: » I have no issue with and respect transgender people. It's entirely possible that they could have been born in the wrong body, in my mind but this non-binary stuff is a step too far for me.
Dante7 wrote: » People protesting against Graham Linehan appearing, but they have no problem with the doctor from the Tavistock institute appearing. He earns his living transitioning people, including kids against other medical advice. But Graham Linehan is the dodgy contributor! People need to cop on here and look at the cause they are blindly supporting.
Gravelly wrote: » Jaysus you really have it in for the poor ould plumbers ya big plumberist ya.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do you think maybe that you were different in a different way to the Wexford lad was different? /quote] I'd have being considered very different to the norm when I was in 6th class for a teenage lad. The programs I'd have liked may for being considered a bit feminine and I wasn't sporty but none of my family every questioned this. They just took it I was that way.
TheDavester wrote: » Colm o Gorman is having his meltdown.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Once again - it's not about 'not liking the opinion' - it is about the danger of bringing in a comedy writer to speak about a sensitive issue in which he has no expertise or experience. In fairness, Prime Time managed to find a fair selection of experts, some medical and some others, and a few people with direct experience - along with the comedy writer. Hasn't the 'good man' thing got a little old now? Anyway, can I complain to Prime Time now about how they censored me by not having me on the show? Because that's what they did by not sharing my opinions with the national audience, right? Has this any relevance for Ireland? The trans people involve have direct experience of the matter. Linehan is welcome to have his opinion - he's not welcome to broadcast it in serious news show, where they have a duty to be fair and accurate. It's awful, isn't it? Imagine being expected not to be rude and offensive to people. Must be so hard. 'many people have and will taken advantage' - we have a tiny number of cases arising internationally, which make up a tiny, tiny percentage of sexual assaults on women by men - but it's getting an awful lot of attention round here. What is the obsession on this tiny issue all about? You realise that NOT providing appropriate support for children can, in some cases, cause extreme pain, and can result in deaths by suicide. Did they not listen to the fairly clear explanation given on the show? What do you mean? You seem to have missed the key issue about why their minds are (to use your term) messed up. And again, we have very unusual, extreme cases of no relevance to the Irish scenario being dragged in to justify causing extreme pain by witholding support and treatment, contrary to every bit of professional advice from every expert in the field. The prison issue is a non-issue in Ireland, following the statement from the Irish Prison service quoted in the show. So the 'one case is too many' logic applies to the plumber in Texas too, right? We need new laws to protect women against plumbers, presumably?
Atlantic Dawn wrote: » Why do we not let someone vote until they are 18 yet are facilitating these life changing decisions by those under 18?
freshpopcorn wrote: » I might have misunderstood the mother from Wexford but she said something along the lines of she asked her kid was he gay around the end of primary school because he was a little different. I was a little different and had lots of different likes/interests at that age compared to my peers but my mother never asked me was I gay.
Topgear on Dave wrote: » Indeed, but I dont want to be sitting here in a decade or two with a primetime special on, with women / men asking why was I allowed remove my perfectly healthy reproductive organs? and Im now on medicine for life?
donkeykong5 wrote: » Heather making very good point about the changing rooms. Kinda scary actually.
statesaver wrote: » That’s it ? Why the fúck were people saying, shouting, screaming that Greham Linehan get kicked off the show ? The man spoke sense.
sabat wrote: » "under new proposals?" Where are these coming from? Very mysterious that they didn't even mention it. I'm going to guess it's originating from the 'Zappone Complex' but they don't want to put a name to it yet-hence this kite flying exercise.
Calhoun wrote: » That's how censorship works, he has been judges to have wrong think on this subject so has to be shut down.
ceadaoin. wrote: » No but it allows people to challenge why they might be in facilities of the wrong gender or make them think twice about taking the chance. In the UK most sexual assaults in facilities like that take place in unisex ones. It's all about opportunity
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » That guy at the end who wanted to do a survey of people who regretted going down this road and the college warned him off Sinister times we live in
AndrewJRenko wrote: » So the 'one case is too many' logic applies to the plumber in Texas too, right? We need new laws to protect women against plumbers, presumably?
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