BumperD wrote: » Take away responsibility and accountability, you’ll see where that gets us. I’ve more sympathy for the young lads and lassies staying the straight course in life and working their ass off having to suffer these gob****es in the weighroom and on the track. As regards punishment, the slap on the wrist / light bans didn’t work. HRI is not there to offer rehab clinics for fools who make poor choices in life. If these poor lads and those before them didn’t get told at home, for whatever reason, or even in church because no one goes there anymore, they surely were told and got classed in school to avoid stuffing this shxt into your system. It not just them that will suffer, but everyone around them . We all pay the price for them getting that high. Funny, the only people I’ve encountered who want legalizing or not imposing penalties for peddling this stuff are users themselves. One of them, a very close friend since childhood, the only thing we ever argued on was his drug use which he started at 16 and got habitually worse. He ended up homeless before realizing he made very poor choices and got his act together, at massive cost to his family and friends. I’m done with this debate. I’ve flagged it umteen times here as a monstrous problem that needs tackling head on and am absolutely delighted someone is finally standing up for the silent majority who pay the price for those who want to indulge in the white snow.
NaiveMelodies wrote: » Inform yourself mate, it's never too late. Don't go to church expecting the answer though.
BumperD wrote: » I’ve often wondered whether mental health drives those to the drugs or the drugs causes the mental health issue. I’m beginning to think the former but not set on it. Anyway, gone slightly off topic.
The Mig wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/i-blew-a-million-quid-on-drink-drugs-and-women-irish-jockey-eyeing-remarkable-comeback-37701732.html
The Mig wrote: » It's not just racing. It's the culture in Ireland now it's rampant. Friends of mine used to be occasional users of it, now they can't even go for a few pints in the local without a bag. Disgusting the way its gone!
Mostly Harmless wrote: » Potentially ending a lad's career before it has even started. Never made a mistake yourself? If drug laws have taught us anything it is that punishment is not a very effective deterrent, but by all means carry on with the draconian approach that is proven to not work.
Shemale wrote: » How do you mistakenly take cocaine? They knew cocaine is illegal and it is tested for as a part of the job and they still did it.
Mostly Harmless wrote: » Just think it is crazy how a trainer's half baked explanation as to why a horse has tested positive is generally good enough to have the punishment greatly reduced - Shark got off scot free more or less, Fenton should have had a lifetime ban but got 3 years, Joseph O'Brien had no action taken at all for a positive cobalt test, William Treacy claimed he had urinated on the horse feed after ingesting the drugs himself and got a 1k fine. Yet when a jockey tests positive for a recreational drug and offers a similarly silly explanation for how it got in their system like their drink was spiked then the authorities take a much harder approach. I would consider giving horses performance enhancing drugs is more damaging to the integrity of the sport in general.
Mostly Harmless wrote: » Sigh. "make a mistake" not "mistakenly take", i.e. when somebody does something they are aware is wrong at the time and later live to regret.
Shemale wrote: » In relation to trainers doping I agree more should be done but the issue is the impact to innocent parties. The trainer and vet might know but how many innocent people are out of a job if the trainer gets a ban.
NaiveMelodies wrote: » What???? Makes zero sense. "Don't ban him, he's an employer!"
BumperD wrote: » https://www.racingpost.com/news/more-to-read/the-biggest-ever-certainty-to-race-at-cheltenham/248119 One to warm the hearts
droidman123 wrote: » Does anyone know if paddypower is bog on multiples at the moment? I know they chop and change these specials during the year
NaiveMelodies wrote: » Never known PP to be bog on multiples in shop. Not sure about online.
IAMAMORON wrote: » Paddy Power are BOG online only. I don't understand why they don't in the shops. They will also update your cash out value to the BOG price if it lands at bigger odds, which is helpful.
NaiveMelodies wrote: » Kevin Blake has had his say on the draconian Cocaine bans with some interesting comparisons.
Mostly Harmless wrote: » Must be a drug user himself to arrive at such liberal opinions
BumperD wrote: » There are a couple of ghiant holes in his opinion piece, the most obvious of which is the comparison with alcohol. He ignores the fact that possession of cocaine, at least when I last checked, is a serious criminal offense, and consuming it feeds the ruthless drugs gangs in Ireland and elsewhere. He also suggests the effects of taking cocaine are short lasting. Really.
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