obby1 wrote: » I suppose Leo & co are not? they really care about 'the people'
2011 wrote: » "Margaret Cash appears in court over stealing €300 worth of clothes from Pennys" the thread that just keeps on giving. Over 250 pages of ranting in an echo chamber. Perhaps it is time to move on?
Wanderer78 wrote: » but its our overall political ideologies are preventing us from dealing with these complex social issues.
washman3 wrote: » Fine so. Let's all bury our collective heads in the sand along with the politicians, PC brigade,journalists,judges and other members of the judicial system (sorry judicial industry) and pretend there's not a problem. Shure it'll all be grand. Typical Irish solution to all situations.
pjohnson wrote: » Its almost like those ranting and raving here in AH dont actually represent the majority. I mean AH said Casey would win by a landslide and how did that turn out?
obby1 wrote: » Whats the problem? Break the law, go to jail
jjmcclure wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html Where are RTE now?
Gravelly wrote: » "AH said" What does that mean? Who said Casey "would win by a landslide"? I didn't see anyone say that, not to mention enough people saying it that you can arbitrarily decide that it is the collective voice of AH.
pjohnson wrote: » 54% voted Casey in the AH poll. That did not appear to translate into the actual poll. 54% voted Casey in the AH poll. A real life 54% would have made him president. He got 20%.
obby1 wrote: » when they build a halting site in the following places , then the media can have a real discussion. Foxrock Dalkey Castleknock Blackrock Howth feel free to add to the list of areas that deserve a halting site
freshpopcorn wrote: » This would be an interesting If the government houses a lot of traveller families in these location for the next seven years.(Approx) In the next presidential election if Peter Casey did run again it would be interesting to see how they'd vote.
Gravelly wrote: » The people who influence opinion - the journalists, commentators, writers, politicians, etc. are overwhelmingly isolated from any of the issues that get the blood up in the general public - hospital waiting lists, halting sites, crime, house prices, immigration, etc. Since none of these things adversely affect them, they paint any opposition or unrest about these issues as ignorance on the part of the great unwashed. Unfortunately, many of those who are affected by these issues are too weak to realise that they are being brainwashed into voting a certain way by people who believe them to be unworthy of real representation. When you see your local politician, journalist or judge living beside a halting site, competing with an immigrant for their job, and queuing for hospital treatment, then things will change. Which obviously will be never.
obby1 wrote: » he went from 2% to 20+% over night with his statement, if he made it at the start who knows what would have happened. I do know one thing, try living near them before you form a opinion
Mad_maxx wrote: » Plus the media done no polling in the intervening period between his comments and the election so this kept a lid on any building momentum
BattleCorp wrote: » Considering he had the media whipping up a frenzy against him, he did quite well. The media are in a nice little bubble and not really in touch with the common man.
tuxy wrote: » As Joe Duffy would say "How did you know they were travellers?" :rolleyes:
Wanderer78 wrote: » obby1 wrote: » You can't complain, you had your chance to vote in the presidential election for a man who called them out on their BS, the public decided to put Higgins back in, a man who sings the praises of their unique culture. If Peter Casey does run in the GE, get behind him, and maybe FG/FF will do something about it if Casey romps home a big winner. casey is what you d call, a populist, populists sometimes couldnt give a rats arse about 'the people'
obby1 wrote: » You can't complain, you had your chance to vote in the presidential election for a man who called them out on their BS, the public decided to put Higgins back in, a man who sings the praises of their unique culture. If Peter Casey does run in the GE, get behind him, and maybe FG/FF will do something about it if Casey romps home a big winner.
obby1 wrote: » Peter Casey would win big, be like the results of a election in N.KOREA, 99% for Casey, only difference would be the election would not be rigged
Mad_maxx wrote: » Its really only the looney left who have any love for travellers, majority of TD, s pay lip service so as not be out of favour with the left wing media who s
BattleCorp wrote: » I'm on Casey's side in that I agree that there is a problem with traveller culture etc. He lifted a lid on a can of worms that nobody else was willing to do. In that I commend him. But I don't think he is a very articulate speaker and doubt he'd make a very good politician.
donkeykong5 wrote: Casey has more empathy in his little finger than higgo has in his entire body.
donkeykong5 wrote: » Casey has more empathy in his little finger than higgo has in his entire body.
Kingp35 wrote: » I'm from Dalkey. Two traveller families have lived in Dalkey for 30 odd years with very little trouble from them. Granted they are settled travellers but my point still stands.
