Wheeliebin30 wrote: If you put a good point forward I’ll accept it but you’re avoiding it because you don’t have one.
conorhal wrote: How about this, stop selling NAMA properties at massive discounts to vulture funds and sell them to citizens? A block of apartments near me were sold at less then 50 grand a unit to a vulture fund, why could these not have been sold at the same discount to people on the housing list? FG had handled the housing crisis abominably, from fannying around the edges of the problem with legislation that actually made it worse rather then addressing it to a complete failure to substantially reform public housing and build. FFS, when we hadn't an arse in our trousers in the 50's we were building 18,000 social homes a year at one point, so I don't accept the governments excuses. I'd rate their performance a solid 3/10
Fiftyfilthy wrote: » The genuine people who are struggling to pay sky high rents by the skin of their teeth and working to do this are ignored They are ignored and the lazy lazy slob vermin who breed like rats are the ones that officials bend over backwards to house It’s ****ing wrong
conorhal wrote: » How about this, stop selling NAMA properties at massive discounts to vulture funds and sell them to citizens? A block of apartments near me were sold at less then 50 grand a unit to a vulture fund, why could these not have been sold at the same discount to people on the housing list? FG has handled the housing crisis abominably, from failing to address the problem and fannying around the edges it with legislation that actually made it worse, to a complete failure to substantially reform public housing and build some, this governement is a failure on every level. FFS, when we hadn't an arse in our trousers in the 50's we were building 18,000 social homes a year at one point, so I don't accept the governments excuses. I'd rate their performance a solid 3/10
enricoh wrote: » Iirc there was 100ish rough sleepers in dublin one night last month. It'll get to the stage charities fighting each other- he's ours, no we had him first, sign a contract bud will ya!
Plumbthedepths wrote: » No I told you I won't engage with someone who defends the indefensible no matter the topic because of party loyalty.
EdgeCase wrote: » You'll always get a % of people gaming any system. That's human nature. It doesn't take away from the reality that there is a major housing squeeze in Dublin, Cork and a few other areas. That's entirely down to an abnormal lack of supply that is clearly caused by the 2008 collapse which entirely wiped out the residential construction sector. The impacts of that were huge and despite a few years of strong economic recovery, that sector has been very slow to recover and extremely cautious about scaling up. Ireland did go through one of the worst economic crashes seen in a developed economy, since the great depression anyway. You can't really expect to snap your fingers and have everything back to normal and that's why the housing system is not working. I don't think government policy has been adequately dealing with it either. There needs to be a very radical rethink.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Dude I'm not going to engage with you over FG, I have seen you defend the indefensible from FG in the same manner that SF supporters defend the same bs from their party. It's tedious boring and repetitive.
conorhal wrote: » How about this, stop selling NAMA properties at massive discounts to vulture funds and sell them to citizens? A block of apartments near me were sold at less then 50 grand a unit to a vulture fund
Dravokivich wrote: » I share a spare room with my son. Homelessness isn't just rough sleeping. There's also being unable to obtain a home.
kuntboy wrote: » Oh boo ****ing hoo. Why don't you go to the 3rd world and witness real homelessness? They get no room. If you can't afford a "home", maybe that's your fault
Seth Brundle wrote: » Firstly what NAMA property was this? Secondly, you do know that "vulture funds" are just investment funds? I've a pension with Irish Life. Does that make me an investor in a vulture fund? It's a stupid term used to create a sense of injustice.
MarkHenderson wrote: » It's pointless debating with the OP. He/she constantly seems to have it in for people from disadvantaged areas and people in social housing in general. Say's it all when you see a thread title and know who's started it without even looking,.
mikemac2 wrote: » Username checks out ^^^
DontThankMe wrote: » There is no homeless crisis in comparison to other EU countries homeless levels in Ireland are similar to those in other countries around Europe.
Dravokivich wrote: » Its been pushed quite a bit in the news over the weekend. A lot of service industries are having issues retaining staff because they can't afford to live here.
kuntboy wrote: » "Investor" is a euphemism used to justify blatant exploitation of other people's hard work. But whatever keeps your conscience clean, I suppose.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » https://www.thejournal.ie/conor-skeehan-homelessness-normal-4428104-Jan2019/ What’s this??? Someone speaking sense and the truth about homelessness and charities receiving hundreds of millions from tax payers?? Watch him get crucified by the usual free house brigade.
LotharIngum wrote: » I grew up in a council house in the 80s. It had 4 bedrooms. I and one sibling got jobs, moved out, worked hard and bought our own houses. I have three other siblings who worked maybe less than a year of their whole lives between them. They all moved out one at a time as they got council houses. They still don't work, at least not on the level anyway. My mum was left in the council house and about 10 years ago they gave her a transfer into a lovely new 3 bed house with a huge garden. So when we were all together at Christmas in my mums house the conversation was oh a fence post has broken in my garden and the council haven't sent anyone to fix it for two months and the neighbors dog is getting in and sh1tting on my lawn. I have a mouse in the attic and I cant get the council to come out. Sure one of my kitchen cupboards has the handle falling off it. Myself and my older sister were just rolling our eyes at each other in disbelief. Cue a big fight when she was caught rolling her eyes. She just stood up and shouted out that she was sick of hearing this. She said she was paying a mortgage for the last 20 years and still had 10 to go, and had to shell out all the time when things go wrong, while you guys wont even get up off your arses to fix your own stuff. You have a free house, you get money for nothing. you don't have to get up in the morning. You get free childcare that you don't even need. You haven't a care in the world. And you cant shut up about the bloody councilnto fixing your fence post, your mouse, and your door handle. Buy a mouse trap, pay someone to fix one single fence post and buy a screw driver and a door handle in woodies. At that she stormed out. Me who was left sitting there because I hadn't got caught rolling my eyes then had to listen to the rest of the sh1t. How they pay taxes (VAT) and they are entitled to this and that and how they pay €50 rent and they have to cut their own grass. How my sister deosnt know how good SHE has it that she doesn't have to shop in lidl and has a company car and on and on about the things she actually worked for her whole life. My dear lord Jesus, it was painful. And you know what. Same sh!t every year. They are just entitled and anyone who tells them that is a begrudger and god knows what else. I hate going home at Christmas. Simple truth is you don't learn the value of something until you have had to work for it. That cant be taught. You have to work to find out.
Seth Brundle wrote: » aah here now, you're not allowed to say any of that stuff!
