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The Academies

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List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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Thermoman12

sellit90000 wrote: »

Liam Turner is an interesting prospect, anyone think he will make the leinster academy?

Or will concerns about his lack of height and top end athleticism mean he will get passed over? Needs to nail down a starting position for Ireland u20.

combined with there being a wing in the academy of the same age grade and several good prospects on the wing in the age grade below him.

I think being shorter will help him due to his low center of gravity, it would be much harder for people to tackle him considering he’s very built aswell

sellit90000

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I think being shorter will help him due to his low center of gravity, it would be much harder for people to tackle him considering he’s very built aswell

we shall see how he gets on for the 20's.. will need to impress

LostArt03

How many academy players will play this weekend for Leinster?

Serbian

LostArt03 wrote: »

How many academy players will play this weekend for Leinster?

A lot less than last week anyway. I think Leinster will be looking to give some of the players from the autumn internationals game time before the ERC game against Bath.

Who exactly is likely to play? Back row is likely to feature one or two academy players with Leavy, Conan and O’Brien unlikely to feature. Probably two of Doris, Deegan, Murphy and Penny.

I don’t think any other positions will be filled by academy players.

elliot_st

Prop
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - started at 3 for Clontarf.
Jack Aungier(Year 2/Suttonians RFC/Terenure) - started at 3 for Terenure.
Michael Milne(Year 1/CC Roscrea-Birr RFC/UCD) - started at 1 for UCD.

Donnacha Mescal(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 1 for DUFC.
Niall McEniff(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench for St. Marys.
Thomas Clarkson(U19/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for DUFC.
Harry Noonan(U19/Greystones/Old Wesley) - bench for Old Wesley.

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 2 for Lansdowne.
Dan Sheehan(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 2 for DUFC

Declan Adamson(U20/Clontarf/Clontarf) - started at 2 for Clontarf.
Bobby Sheehan(U19/Clongowes/UCD) - started at 2 for UCD.
Sean Molony(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.
John McKee(U19/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Lock
Jack Dunne(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 5 for DUFC.
Ryan Baird(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - injured.

Brian Deeny(U19/Wexford/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf, 1 try.

Backrow
Oisin Dowling(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 5 for Lansdowne.
Scott Penny(Year 1/St. Michaels/UCD) - didnt play this weekend.

Ronan Watters(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 7 for St. Marys.
Martin Moloney(U20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - started at 7 for Old Belvedere.
Ruadhan Byron(U20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf
Rueben Pim(U20/Kilkenny/DUFC) - bench for DUFC.
Gerard Hill(U20/Belvedere/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 2/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Patrick Patterson(Year 1/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.

Shane Murphy(U19/Skerries RFC/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 2/Skerries RFC/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(Year 1/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne, 1 con.
David Hawkshaw(Year 1/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.

James Tarrant(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Year 3/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 3/Newbridge/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(Year 3/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Kelly(Year 3/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 13 for DUFC.
Michael Silvester(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 15 for DUFC.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Year 1/Exile/UCD) - injured.

Liam Turner(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 14 for DUFC.
Hugo Conway(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 14 for St. Marys.
Conor Kelly(U20/Roscrea/Clontarf) - started at 15 for Clontarf.
Adam LaGrue(U20/Terenure/Terenure) - started at 13 for Terenure.
Ruairi Shields(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 11 for St. Marys.
Sam Dardis(U19/Terenure/Terenure) - bench.

D14Rugby

Guessing that the second parts in that list are just people you think are notable?

elliot_st

D14Rugby wrote: »

Guessing that the second parts in that list are just people you think are notable?

some are sub-academy players, others are underage players who were involved with leinster previously, most of them last summer at either u20 or u19 level.

ArmchairQB

elliot_st wrote: »

Prop
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - started at 3 for Clontarf.
Jack Aungier(Year 2/Suttonians RFC/Terenure) - started at 3 for Terenure.
Michael Milne(Year 1/CC Roscrea-Birr RFC/UCD) - started at 1 for UCD.

Donnacha Mescal(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 1 for DUFC.
Niall McEniff(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench for St. Marys.
Thomas Clarkson(U19/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for DUFC.
Harry Noonan(U19/Greystones/Old Wesley) - bench for Old Wesley.

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 2 for Lansdowne.
Dan Sheehan(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 2 for DUFC

Declan Adamson(U20/Clontarf/Clontarf) - started at 2 for Clontarf.
Bobby Sheehan(U19/Clongowes/UCD) - started at 2 for UCD.
Sean Molony(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.
John McKee(U19/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Lock
Jack Dunne(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 5 for DUFC.
Ryan Baird(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - injured.

Brian Deeny(U19/Wexford/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf, 1 try.

Backrow
Oisin Dowling(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - started at 5 for Lansdowne.
Scott Penny(Year 1/St. Michaels/UCD) - didnt play this weekend.

Ronan Watters(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 7 for St. Marys.
Martin Moloney(U20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - started at 7 for Old Belvedere.
Ruadhan Byron(U20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf
Rueben Pim(U20/Kilkenny/DUFC) - bench for DUFC.
Gerard Hill(U20/Belvedere/Old Belvedere) - bench for Old Belvedere.

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 2/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Patrick Patterson(Year 1/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.

Shane Murphy(U19/Skerries RFC/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 2/Skerries RFC/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(Year 1/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne, 1 con.
David Hawkshaw(Year 1/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.

James Tarrant(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Year 3/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 3/Newbridge/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(Year 3/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Kelly(Year 3/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 13 for DUFC.
Michael Silvester(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 15 for DUFC.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Year 1/Exile/UCD) - injured.

Liam Turner(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 14 for DUFC.
Hugo Conway(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 14 for St. Marys.
Conor Kelly(U20/Roscrea/Clontarf) - started at 15 for Clontarf.
Adam LaGrue(U20/Terenure/Terenure) - started at 13 for Terenure.
Ruairi Shields(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 11 for St. Marys.
Sam Dardis(U19/Terenure/Terenure) - bench.

Dan Sheehan is on a temporay academy contract that got extended he is not on a full academy contract, may graduate to one but not on a full one as of yet

elliot_st

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Dan Sheehan is on a temporay academy contract that got extended he is not on a full academy contract, may graduate to one but not on a full one as of yet

seems like to me he is on a standard 1 year deal, so what's the difference?

He is training with seniors along with the rest of the academy.

elliot_st

5 st. michaels players in Ireland u18 training camp over christmas.

Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
Lee Barron(Hooker)
Will Hickey(Backrow)
Rob Gilsenan(Scrumhalf)
Chris Cosgrave(Fullback)

some other leinster players involved

Sam Illo(LH Prop)
Levi Vaughan(Hooker)
Alex Soroka(Lock)
Ben Murphy(Scrumhalf)
Karl Martin(Centre)
Jamie Osborne(Fullback)

elliot_st

Potential Leinster academy next season?

Jack Aungier(Suttonians/Terenure) - Year 3
Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - Year 2
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - Year 1

Ronan Kelleher(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 3
Dan Sheehan(Clongwoes/DUFC) - Year 2

Oisin Dowling(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 3
Ryan Baird(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Year 2
Charlie Ryan(/Blackrock/UCD) - Year 1

Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD) - Year 2
Martin Moloney(Athy/Old Belvedere) - Year 1

Patrick Patterson(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 2
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/St. Marys) - Year 1

Harry Byrne(St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - Year 2
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Year 2

Tommy O'Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 3
Gavin Mullin(Blackrock/UCD) - Year 3

Michael Silvester(Clongwoes/DUFC) - Year 2
Aaron O'Sullivan(Exile/UCD) - Year 2
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Year 1

Hands Like Flippers

Some Ulster names in u18 December camp:

Nathan Doak 10 Wallace started at 9 last year.
Ben Carson 12 Wallace u17
Reuben Xxx 7 Wallace u17

Oscar Egan prop Coleraine

Presumably Tom Stewart BRA at hooker as he started last year for the schools team.

Haven't seen any others.

Heymans

Elliott Of those who do you think will get senior contracts?

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

5 st. michaels players in Ireland u18 training camp over christmas.

Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
Lee Barron(Hooker)
Will Hickey(Backrow)
Rob Gilsenan(Scrumhalf)
Chris Cosgrave(Fullback)

some other leinster players involved

Sam Illo(LH Prop)
Levi Vaughan(Hooker)
Alex Soroka(Lock)
Ben Murphy(Scrumhalf)
Karl Martin(Centre)
Jamie Osborne(Fullback)

Saw CC play 13 for At Michael's in Belfast a few months ago. Very good.

Locke_Lamora

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Some Ulster names in u18 December camp:

Nathan Doak 10 Wallace started at 9 last year.
Ben Carson 12 Wallace u17
Reuben Xxx 7 Wallace u17

Oscar Egan prop Coleraine

Presumably Tom Stewart BRA at hooker as he started last year for the schools team.

Haven't seen any others.

Reuben Crothers?

Hands Like Flippers

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

Reuben Crothers?

Yes. According to Wallace he was the openside and captain of the u18 school and club side v the schools. The other two Wallace guys were Schools team.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

would make both starting centres u17.

Don't quite follow. Sorry.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

Ben Carson started at 12 and Karl Martin started at 13, making both starting centres under-17 and eligible again next season.

Very good. Look forward to seeing a few of the games.

Did you see the team sheets at all?

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

not a full teamsheet no, A team:

1. George Saunderson(Ulster)
2. Lee Barron(Leinster)
3. Mark Donnelly(Munster)
4. Alex Soroka(Leinster)
5. Darragh Murray(Connacht)
6. Will Hickey(Leinster)
7. Hubert Costello(Connacht)
8. Alex Kendellan(Munster)
9. Ben Murphy(Leinster)
10. Nathan Doak(Ulster)
11.
12. Ben Carson(Ulster)
13. Karl Martin(Leinster)
14.
15. Chris Cosgrave(Leinster)

B team:

1. Sam Illo(Leinster)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Rueben Crothers(Ulster)
8. Daniel Okeke(Munster)
9. Rob Gilsenan(Leinster)
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Jamie Osborne(Leinster)

Surprised no Tom Stewart at hooker in there given he started for Schools last year. Highly rated in Ulster. Played 2 for Ulster v Australia recently.

Hands Like Flippers

elliot_st wrote: »

could be injured, dunno.

Or hols I suppose as played on Saturday past.

arsebiscuits1

elliot_st wrote: »

Potential Leinster academy next season?

Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD) - Year 2

I know he's only started 3 games so far for us but I wonder could he be promoted early?

Wasn't in the case that Connacht came knocking for Doris so they bumped him up to a senior contract early?

Penny might find himself in a similar situation. If I were another province I'd be really buttering up Penny to join

D14Rugby

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I know he's only started 3 games so far for us but I wonder could he be promoted early?

Wasn't in the case that Connacht came knocking for Doris so they bumped him up to a senior contract early?

Penny might find himself in a similar situation. If I were another province I'd be really buttering up Penny to join

Doris' family live in Mayo though so he'd be far more likely to move.

I'd probably cut down on the non academy chat lads, I like this thread, hate to see it closed.

Heymans

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

Stainalert

Heymans wrote: »

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

He's in year 2 of the academy

arsebiscuits1

Heymans wrote: »

Elliott - What are the chances of Kelleher 2. getting a senior contract.

He is in year 3 of the Academy correct?

Having seen him play a few. He's comfortably got the physicality for pro rugby and seems to have the skills although they need to be honed. He was excellent for the Leinster As

Given Leinster have the conference all but wrapped up and we have the Kings at home and Zebre away, there is a good chance for a cap or 2 for him to see if he can make it at a higher level

Heymans

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Having seen him play a few. He's comfortably got the physicality for pro rugby and seems to have the skills although they need to be honed. He was excellent for the Leinster As

Given Leinster have the conference all but wrapped up and we have the Kings at home and Zebre away, there is a good chance for a cap or 2 for him to see if he can make it at a higher level

Good I was wondering if the coaching staff were doing their utmost in succession planning in this area. Hopefully he makes a few appearances soon and gets a contract.

Would also like to see Dan Sheehan get a run out. He's a big unit from what I've seen

Squidgy Black

Kelleher will likely get a development contract at the end of next year, think it's clear that Tracy isn't the answer at hooker and Byrne hasn't really had much of a look in for bigger games despite being 25 now.

elliot_st

Leinster Academy Team

1. Michael Milne(19/Roscrea/UCD)
2. Ronan Kelleher(20/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
3. Jack Aungier(20/Suttonians RFC/Terenure)
4. Ryan Baird(19/St. Michaels/DUFC)
5. Jack Dunne(20/St. Michaels/DUFC)
6. Oisin Dowling(21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
7. Scott Penny(19/St. Michaels/UCD)
8. Ronan Watters(19/St. Marys/St. Marys)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Belvedre/Clontarf)
10. Ciaran Frawley(21/Skerries RFC/UCD)
11. Tommy O'Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD)
12. Conor O'Brien(22/Mullingar/Clontarf)
13. Jimmy O'Brien(22/Newbridge/UCD)
14. Jack Kelly(21/St. Michaels/DUFC)
15. Hugo Keenan(22/Blackrock/UCD)
16. Dan Sheehan(20/Clongowes/DUFC)
17. Guiseppe Coyne(19/Blackrock/DUFC)
18. Tom Clarkson(18/Blackrock/DUFC)
19. Charlie Ryan(19/Blackrock/UCD)
20. Martin Moloney(19/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)
21. Patrick Patterson(20/Blackrock/UCD)
22. Harry Byrne(19/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
23. Michael Silvester(20/Clongowes/DUFC)

Heymans

Elliott what are the chances of Kelly, Keenan or Sylvester being given a senior contract in the next few years?

BorkLaser93

D14Rugby wrote: »

I'd probably cut down on the non academy chat lads, I like this thread, hate to see it closed.

Really? Talking about academy players is too much now? The schools thread is already a bag of ****e and now this thread could get derailed because people are talking about moving young players around the provinces? Christ...this is a forum isn't it? Free speech and all that.