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Minor schemes & realignments

marno21

Here's a thread for discussing minor schemes & realignments, not big enough to deserve their own thread.

News on Radio Kerry this morning about removal of objections to CPOs on the realignment of the Kilderry bends just outside Milltown on the N70.

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/landowners-withdrawn-their-objection-to-cpo-for-mid-kerry-road-improvement-scheme/

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riddlinrussell

HabibiLibnen wrote: »

https://www.donegalnow.com/news/three-major-n56-projects-completed-end-2019/263339

The construction on the N56 schemes at Kilmacrennan, Mount Charles to Inver and Dungloe - Glenties to be completed by end of year. I wasn't aware that the schemes mentioned for tender were this advanced, particularly Frosses to Inver. Has anyone any info and updates/photos of the current construction schemes?

I found what appear to be some images on this contractors site?

McMackin Contracts - Kilmacrennan to Coolboy

marno21

HabibiLibnen wrote: »

https://www.donegalnow.com/news/three-major-n56-projects-completed-end-2019/263339

The construction on the N56 schemes at Kilmacrennan, Mount Charles to Inver and Dungloe - Glenties to be completed by end of year. I wasn't aware that the schemes mentioned for tender were this advanced, particularly Frosses to Inver. Has anyone any info and updates/photos of the current construction schemes?

The 2 bigger N56 schemes have their own threads, more info there:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056889757

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057563596

spacetweek

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

Well, I would ask Spacetweek, as his page Irishmotorwayinfo.com shows a future N61 bypass rejoining the existing N61 at roughly the point where the new roundabout is.

That was more than likely educated guesswork on my part.

BelfastVanMan

spacetweek wrote: »

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

Well, I would ask Spacetweek, as his page Irishmotorwayinfo.com shows a future N61 bypass rejoining the existing N61 at roughly the point where the new roundabout is.

That was more than likely educated guesswork on my part.

I did think it was somewhat aspirational, to say the least...
:-D

marno21

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

I did think it was somewhat aspirational, to say the least...
:-D

There was a bigger plan for the N61 but it's been blueshirted into a smaller series of realignments, one chunk at a time

HabibiLibnen

I don't know how an eastern bypass of Roscommon would work without a lot of CPOs and demolition of houses. It doesn't seem feasible at all.

There's a survey on Ros Co Co website to gauge people's views on the section of the N61 from Ballymurray to Knockcroghery.

The section from Clashaganny to Tulsk is listed on TII's website for future planning but I'd imagine it'll be at least 10 years before planning might even commence. It's unfortunate because a lot of the work would involve a simple widening of the road for most sections.

Donegal Storm

HabibiLibnen wrote: »

https://www.donegalnow.com/news/three-major-n56-projects-completed-end-2019/263339

The construction on the N56 schemes at Kilmacrennan, Mount Charles to Inver and Dungloe - Glenties to be completed by end of year. I wasn't aware that the schemes mentioned for tender were this advanced, particularly Frosses to Inver. Has anyone any info and updates/photos of the current construction schemes?

Kilmacrennan - Letterkenny section is coming on well, a few stretches of the new alignment are already partially open. Still a lot of work going on but should definitely be finished later this year.

Haven't driven the Glenties or Mountcharles sections recently but there was still a lot to do on both a few months back

irishgeo

signs up stating n60 realignment at Lagnamuck starting 21st of Jan until the end of 2019.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

N70 Kilderry bends powering along now. The offline section on the Milltown section is tarmaced but the tie in is yet to start. The N70 is down to one lane with traffic lights on the Killorglin side where tie in works have started and are significantly advanced

Tie in works are almost complete now at the Killorglin end with signage poles up.

Work has yet to start on the Milltown side for the tie in works.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Tie in works are almost complete now at the Killorglin end with signage poles up.

Work has yet to start on the Milltown side for the tie in works.

Stop/go system in place now on the Milltown side where the tie in works are now well underway. Most of the mainline seems complete, so the Q2 scheduled completion date will definitely be met.

Dr_serious2

Widening of Letterfrack Road (n59) has commenced. Very poor stretch of road which had many buses in the summer months going to Connemara National Park and Kylemore Abbey but was not big enough for two to pass. Can't come quick enough!

HabibiLibnen

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Widening of Letterfrack Road (n59) has commenced. Very poor stretch of road which had many buses in the summer months going to Connemara National Park and Kylemore Abbey but was not big enough for two to pass. Can't come quick enough!

That's great news for the area. Agreed, it'll be a big boost during the summer months.

Kevwoody

marno21 wrote:

Stop/go system in place now on the Milltown side where the tie in works are now well underway. Most of the mainline seems complete, so the Q2 scheduled completion date will definitely be met.

One of the least disruptive road schemes I've ever seen, totally offline with a tie in at each end. Looks like a fantastic stretch of road from each side.

marno21

Kevwoody wrote: »

One of the least disruptive road schemes I've ever seen, totally offline with a tie in at each end. Looks like a fantastic stretch of road from each side.

Agree on both points, no effects on N70 traffic until the tie in works started. Going to be absolutely transformative especially with the climbing lane too

Will be fantastic to have it open for summer and even better with Kerry County Council now advancing the next 3/4km heading north bypassing Milltown

[Deleted User]

marno21 wrote: »

Agree on both points, no effects on N70 traffic until the tie in works started. Going to be absolutely transformative especially with the climbing lane too

Will be fantastic to have it open for summer and even better with Kerry County Council now advancing the next 3/4km heading north bypassing Milltown

The view from the top is fantastic

But apparently plans for a cycle/pedestrian lane like on the Castleisland by pass had to be shelved due to cost over runs.

marno21

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The view from the top is fantastic

But apparently plans for a cycle/pedestrian lane like on the Castleisland by pass had to be shelved due to cost over runs.

It's priced at €5m on etenders which I thought a little low for 3.5km of offline SC with 900m of climbing lane

In fairness, the old N70 will be quiet enough to host cyclists/peds

I'd imagine the Milltown bypass will have pedestrian facilities like the Castleisland one

[Deleted User]

marno21 wrote: »

It's priced at €5m on etenders which I thought a little low for 3.5km of offline SC with 900m of climbing lane

In fairness, the old N70 will be quiet enough to host cyclists/peds

I'd imagine the Milltown bypass will have pedestrian facilities like the Castleisland one

That's a good point actually.

Kevwoody

marno21 wrote:

Agree on both points, no effects on N70 traffic until the tie in works started. Going to be absolutely transformative especially with the climbing lane too

Passed through here yesterday, amazing progress altogether. The roundabout at the Milltown side is 90% complete. Traffic lights are still in place but its only a matter of a week or two before the road will be open.

Truckermal

Anybody have further info on the N73 works?

marno21

Truckermal wrote: »

Anybody have further info on the N73 works?

Annakisha South realignment to start in 2019 was the last I heard.

Truckermal

marno21 wrote: »

Annakisha South realignment to start in 2019 was the last I heard.

Budget seems small though but if memory serves me right they bought the land years ago.

DumbBrunette

Got a map of the preferred route for N17 Milltown realignment. Doesn't include a bypass unfortunately. Basically it runs from end of previous realignment on ballindine side all the way to community centre at edge of village

irishgeo

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Got a map of the preferred route for N17 Milltown realignment. Doesn't include a bypass unfortunately. Basically it runs from end of previous realignment on ballindine side all the way to community centre at edge of village

Is there a planned start date. looks like the 2+2 from tuam to claremorris is a long way off.

marno21

Kevwoody wrote: »

Passed through here yesterday, amazing progress altogether. The roundabout at the Milltown side is 90% complete. Traffic lights are still in place but its only a matter of a week or two before the road will be open.

You are right, amazing progress in the last week which is daft considering the weather we've had. The roundabout is a late addition, it wasn't in the route plans but is needed for the N70 Milltown bypass scheme anyway so good to see it going ahead.

marno21

irishgeo wrote: »

Is there a planned start date. looks like the 2+2 from tuam to claremorris is a long way off.

It's a pity they didn't decide to reactivate Tuam-Claremorris in 2015 and proceed with it instead of the few km south of Ballindine and now the Milltown project.

TII have stated that Tuam-Claremorris will be over capacity by 2030 anyway so it'll be needed then. This Milltown realignment is still several years away.

Driving south on the N17 it becomes noticeably busier south of Claremorris with the N60 traffic joining. I'd imagine with the M17 now and traffic still increasing given its infancy this will only increase.

To me anyway Claremorris-Tuam would be a bigger priority than 2+2 from Knock to Charlestown.

marno21

N72 Stagmount realignment now at CPO stage, hoping to start in late 2019

https://www.radiokerry.ie/hoped-works-will-take-place-dangerous-rathmore-bend-year/

Fantastic if it happens.

serfboard

marno21 wrote: »

Driving south on the N17 it becomes noticeably busier south of Claremorris with the N60 traffic joining. I'd imagine with the M17 now and traffic still increasing given its infancy this will only increase.

The N17 between Tuam and Milltown:

Last Friday in January (27/01) 2017: 9K (9031)
Last Friday in January (27/01) 2019: 11K (11060)

Funnily enough this 23% increase is not (mostly) driven by an N60 volume increase, which is what I was expecting:

Last Friday in January (27/01) 2017: 6.2K (6202)
Last Friday in January (27/01) 2019: 6.6K (6639)

which is only a 7% increase.

marno21 wrote: »

To me anyway Claremorris-Tuam would be a bigger priority than 2+2 from Knock to Charlestown.

As any regular N17 driver would tell you, the biggest priority on the road is Curry->Ballinacarrow which badly needs replacing. Unfortunately, we're a long way from that it seems.

marno21

serfboard wrote: »

The N17 between Tuam and Milltown:

Last Friday in January (27/01) 2017: 9K (9031)
Last Friday in January (27/01) 2019: 11K (11060)

Funnily enough this 23% increase is not (mostly) driven by an N60 volume increase, which is what I was expecting:

Last Friday in January (27/01) 2017: 6.2K (6202)
Last Friday in January (27/01) 2019: 6.6K (6639)

which is only a 7% increase.

It must be general N17 traffic growth caused by the motorway opening in that case.

There is a large difference on a SC between 9K and 11K though. It gets noticeably busy at that volume.

As any regular N17 driver would tell you, the biggest priority on the road is Curry->Ballinacarrow which badly needs replacing. Unfortunately, we're a long way from that it seems.

I fully agree. I was just surprised that they are going Knock-Collooney rather than Charlestown-Collooney. Knock-Charlestown seems reasonably ok to me but I suppose it is quite a short stretch.

If the 55km 2+2 between Knock and Collooney gets built as one scheme it will transform the N17 though. That would be 35 minutes from the northern end of the Knock bypass to the N4 roundabout in Collooney give or take.

serfboard

marno21 wrote: »

That would be 35 minutes from the northern end of the Knock bypass to the N4 roundabout in Collooney give or take.

Just dreaming a little here ...

Colloney->Knock 35 minutes according to your estimate.
Knock->Tuam is 25 minutes.
Tuam->Doughiska (Galway City outskirts) is 25 minutes.
Tuam->Limerick is one hour.

So, that would mean

Collooney->Galway in under an hour and a half.
Collooney->Limerick in two hours.

marno21

serfboard wrote: »

Just dreaming a little here ...

Colloney->Knock 35 minutes according to your estimate.
Knock->Tuam is 25 minutes.
Tuam->Doughiska (Galway City outskirts) is 25 minutes.
Tuam->Limerick is one hour.

So, that would mean

Collooney->Galway in under an hour and a half.
Collooney->Limerick in two hours.

Indeed.

If the other planned NDP schemes get built on a similar timescale you might see a shift in traffic to the N17 from Midlands or via Dublin routes too increasing traffic and slowing down the Knock-Tuam section.

If the 90kms of N24 dualling and M20 are both built I can see the N17 becoming the dominant N/S route as no similar upgrades are planned for the Midlands routes