riemann wrote: » You can block posters you feel are talking bolx.
wrangler wrote: » Why do you keep insisting that they're backing up bulls, surely they're moving stock as quick as they can with the. massive kills going on at the moment. now you say the fridges are full, We were always told that bull beef was difficult to sell and first to suffer I'd be surprised if we're heading into the same crisisi as 14 with the lessons farmers got then....if they heeded it is suppose
Dozer1 wrote: » in for a long Christmas....https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/ifa-stages-sit-in-at-ag-house-over-carcass-trim-case/
Reggie. wrote: » Got a call from work. Looking for a brief on the protest. Being a farmer in Dublin has its uses it seems
TITANIUM. wrote: » You shouldn't have put on that red cap!
MeheeHohee wrote: » 3 bulls u16, 2 e-2= and 1 u+2-, made 3.99 and 3.87. Was expecting a bit more with bord bia 12 c
Cavanjack wrote: » You were lucky as there wasn't enough flesh on them.
MeheeHohee wrote: » What is the fat requirement for young bulls? 2=? What's the best way of putting fat on muscular cattle?
Bass Reeves wrote: » As they did not make the grid 2+ FS you did not get QA. They deducted 6c/FS for below 2+ . If they had made FS 2+ it would have been worth 24c/kg on the U and 18c/kg on the ''Dini''. To get FS on bulls like that everything has to be right. If protein is too high they grow too much if it is too low they fail to digest there feed. For the last 100 days 13.5p would be ideal. Yes high maize but also a low level of wheat(5-8%) to speed up the rumen. A high oil ration/nut and a good additive..
Reggie. wrote: » You behave yourself.....
Bass Reeves wrote: » I do not know how that got in there but it looks good. It was ment to be on the ''E's''. But that sounds dodgy as well
charolais0153 wrote: » It looks like he got 24c and 12c above base price rather than getting cut tbh
Muckit wrote: » Factories would school you!
Bass Reeves wrote: » Base is 3.73 a U+ getting the 12c QA would gets 24c/kg for the 4 base grades improvements above R=/R- (which are the base grades). The E- would have been another 6c improvements That would have made his overall price would have been 4.11 for the U and 4.17 for the E- if they had been FS2+ minimum However as they were lower FS he lost the 12c/kg QA and 12c/kg for the two FS on the U giving a price of 3.87/kg and 12c+6c/kg on the E's giving a final price of 3.99/kg. On bulls killing 400kgs that is 72/head on the E's and 92 euro on the U grade animal. It would have paid to keep feeding them and take a flat price after Christmass if they were over 16 months. More than likly Op was feeding a very high P ration when if he had added Barley to it he have reduced his feeding costs and came up on the FS's
K9 wrote: » Bass Reeves wrote: » Base is 3.73 a U+ getting the 12c QA would gets 24c/kg for the 4 base grades improvements above R=/R- (which are the base grades). The E- would have been another 6c improvements That would have made his overall price would have been 4.11 for the U and 4.17 for the E- if they had been FS2+ minimum However as they were lower FS he lost the 12c/kg QA and 12c/kg for the two FS on the U giving a price of 3.87/kg and 12c+6c/kg on the E's giving a final price of 3.99/kg. On bulls killing 400kgs that is 72/head on the E's and 92 euro on the U grade animal. It would have paid to keep feeding them and take a flat price after Christmass if they were over 16 months. More than likly Op was feeding a very high P ration when if he had added Barley to it he have reduced his feeding costs and came up on the FS's You won’t get 6c/kg more for grading E. Due to bulls grading better and killout higher than steers factories are offering less of base price for u16 bulls. I know factory in Ennis give QA on 2= for bulls so that might be the case here. Any bull that I slaughtered that doesn’t meet the fat score it’s only the QA you don’t get. You don’t lose the 6c increases on the grades. Hardly worth feeding on the bulls with overage U grade bulls quoted at 3.85 Fair going to get E carcase on u16 bulls
patsy_mccabe wrote: » Why 16 months with young bulls? Is there such a drop off in tenderness so quickly after the 16m. Is it the same Europe wide?
Bass Reeves wrote: » it is an arbritory age that suits retailers and processors. it targets these bulls a times of tight supply May/June and December/January because of time of birth. it also jeeps down carcasses weight however it causes an issue on FS. However processors do claim that as bulls get older there is more likely to be a store period that can effect carcass quality.
Bass Reeves wrote: » My pricing for the bulls works out exactly for a 3.75 base if they are treating them as young bulls. Yes factory try to buy off grid but in this case they have have paid as per grid and as per FS's. Es U grade bulls are quoted at the moment at 3.85 bulls are the first to rise when prices rise. 4/kg may be attainable a in January. Those quality of bulls will put on more weight than it costs to put on them. It different if you are turning and replacing. If you are finishing your own production you need to maximize your profit. The real difference would have been on the U bulls
