kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
VinLieger wrote: » But would they be decimated? I could see them indeed losing but getting decimated is a reach considering how poor labour have consistently been polling under corbyns leadership.
robinph wrote: » A general election can't happen before the deadline date as they are out of time. Triggering the leadup to an election though wouldn't be enough for the EU to grant an extension to A50 until it is over, unless Corbyn's position was stated as being No Brexit. If Labour is still in the wanting a Brexit but not May's version camp then the EU will just stick with things as they are and wait for crash out during the election campaign. Corbyn probably then wins by default, but it's too late to do anything about it by then.
Shelga wrote: » Can’t Labour oust Corbyn and install someone like Chuka Ummuna as leader. God, the whole thing is such a mess of epic proportions.
Leroy42 wrote: » No, because weirdly the members seem to love Corbyn even though he is completely useless at the job, seems to be against everything they want and appears not to care what the rest of the party wants.
opinionated3 wrote: » No bother. Thanks.
Blowfish wrote: » Actually, right now they legally can't, not due to the Article 50 text, but due to their own Withdrawal Bill text which states the EU treaties will no longer be in effect from 'Exit day'. It then defines exit day to be 29th March 2019. They'd have to go through the absolute political shitstorm of revoking the withdrawal bill before they can cancel Article 50.
seamus wrote: » They could, but they don't want to. Corbyn won two leadership contests in 2015 & 2016, and had a massive election success in 2017, despite being pretty clearly anti-EU. Labour doesn't know what it wants. The membership backed Remain, but overwhelmingly want a euroskeptic leader.
According to Momentum, the consultation of members also found that: 92% want all Labour MPs to vote down Theresa May’s Brexit deal 89% believe a no-deal Brexit should be rejected as a viable option 81% believe Brexit is likely to make things worse for their friends, family and community 96% signed a petition calling on May to immediately end the uncertainty around the rights and status of EU citizens living in the UK and UK citizens living elsewhere in the EU.
Tell me how wrote: » Isn't it the case that the grass roots support him because at that level beliefs are largely idealistic and so his socialist claims are not examined too closely. But, within the parliamentary party, where the aim has to be seizing power and enacting policies which are feasible, there is not much love for him.
PropJoe10 wrote: » PMQ's is a good watch so far. Turning into an absolute rabble!
seamus wrote: » ancapailldorcha made a comment a couple of days ago about how the Brexiters in parliament were already leveraged in favour of Brexit. They've placed their bets, moved around their money, and their financial future now rides on ensuring that Brexit happens, ideally as hard as possible.
devnull wrote: » Did May really say that there was a meaningful vote already in 2016, suggesting that there isn't a need for another one and instead they will just crash out by kicking the can down past the exit date so they run out of time? That's how it's being presented by some on twitter.
Shelga wrote: » A baying mob in the House of Commons!
Thargor wrote: » The way she turns every question about her various disasters into 'Well yeah but what about Labour? is embarrassing.
Thargor wrote: » The way she turns every question about her various disasters into 'Well yeah but what about Labour?' is embarrassing.
Leroy42 wrote: » I'll say one thing, that story about the 13 yo that committed suicide due to online and social media abuse puts everything in perspective. While the HoC fannys around not having a clue what they are doing or what they want in terms of Brexit, there is a real world out there which is being left fall apart since nobody is paying attention.
DAVID Davis and Dominic Raab have teamed up to launch their alternative Brexit deal today in an open pitch for the keys to Number 10. The two ex-Brexit Secretaries appeared on stage with DUP leader Arlene Foster this morning in a surprise bid to drum up support for their ideas..... It will scrap the hated Northern Ireland backstop which is why so many MPs are opposed to the PM's agreement. This back-up plan, to stop there being a hard border in Ireland if there was no trade deal, would put the UK in a customs territory with the EU.
LeinsterDub wrote: » https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/7959113/brexit-deal-latest-david-davis-dominic-raab-alternative/ Davis, Raab and Foster have invented some new unicorns!
But Mr Davis and Mr Raab would try and replace the backstop with a ten-year, extendable agreement. They say this would involve free trade in goods, no tariffs, and a Max Fac-style solution for the border.The UK wouldn't be in the same customs union territory, it said.
