kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » People from no other European country would use the term 'Europe' in that sense of it being a place, that is abroad.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Even as a Remainer, and even today, Mays language betrays the inherent disconnect between the UK and the rest of Europe : "Asked whether she had been told that the 48 letters to trigger a no confidence motion in her as Conservative leader had been received, May said: “No, I have been here in Europe dealing with the issue I have promised parliament I would be dealing with.”" People from no other European country would use the term 'Europe' in that sense of it being a place, that is abroad.
Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: » do you really think she is "in power" she may be PM, but she is effectively as much in power as Neil Kinnock was after he went frolicking on that beach in Brighton. only difference is Kinnock didn't look as silly.
Hurrache wrote: » Remember the time Andrew Maxwell appeared on the BBC as the token funny man on an otherwise serious panel to discuss Brexit, and some said it would have been much better had it been Daire O'Briain? Well look which 2 people just got invited onto Newsnight together for a cosy chat with Pritil Patel. I doubt it will ever happen though.
devnull wrote: » That's what you're dealing with.
Inquitus wrote: » Rabidly partisan idiots, nothing you or I can say or do will ever change their mind. When the UK crashes and burns they'll be telling everyone the whole failed Brexit project just needs more time.
christy c wrote: » Genuine question, what would the logistics of erecting a border be if the need arose?
ilovesmybrick wrote: » Simple answer? A sh*tshow. The border is massively porous (helped by integration funds that were a balm to decades long wounds), it has more crossings than the eastern borders of the EU, and it would create absolute havoc. Neither the UK nor Ireland have had any need for the customs, policing, or infrastructural requirements for twenty years, so the training and hiring alone would be a monumental task. And that's just the practicalities. The social and political ramifications are monumental.
ilovesmybrick wrote: » ....it has more crossings than the eastern borders of the EU....
DOCARCH wrote: » And more than between USA and Canada. As above, a lot of crossings would end up being closed (again) and other crossings would have to be monitored (physically or remotely/electronically). One thing that has puzzled me for a long time about the Brexiteers, and their insistence that 'they' would not put in place a hard border, is immigration? What's to stop EU citizens (....the ones the Brexiteers don't seem to want....) travelling into Ireland (freely, as EU citizens), then travelling across the non-hard border and straight into the UK?
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I think Varadkar should refrain from suggesting what the UK should do re: Article 50. It does no good and only leads to resentment and anger across the water. We wouldn't like foreign prime ministers speaking in public about what our policy positions should be.
Akrasia wrote: » They want brexit so they can 'take control of their borders' and their solution to the backstop is to have a completely un patrolled border with the EU
Akrasia wrote: » Its nuts. They want brexit so they can 'take control of their borders' and their solution to the backstop is to have a completely un patrolled border with the EU
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1072550065380708357 Just a note of caution here - remember what Bertie said - 'don't let it come down to a final summit'., the risk being Ireland might be leaned by other EU countries.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » Agree with others, messy, very messy. The old concept of Bandit country wouldn't just relate to a few sqkm where folks get red diesel, it would be large swathes across several counties. The entire mass of new cameras would have their CCD sensors wiped out by a couple of lads in a '92 twincam, before the batteries in their green laser pointer even started to run dry. Ebay would have an oversupply of optic components. Drones would drop weekly butter and lotto tickets across, then the new EU army themselves would show up speaking asking who left all ze concrete pillars in the middle of ze road. Irish would be dropped in schools, in favour of German to decipher what's going on. With Scotland leaving, all they would have to do is lace Had's wall with barbed wire, half of the 95miles there is National Park land, just the M6 and few A-roads on the other East side.
Inquitus wrote: » * the list for this one is particularly shocking in its content.
Folkstonian wrote: » Whilst it would mean ceding big chunks of Northumberland and Cumbria (as well as lots of geordies) to the independent republic of sturgeonia, it’s an otherwise flawless plan!
