kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
Tell me how wrote: » I watched a good portion of the debate in the house of commons this afternoon. Some people not holding back at all in pointing fingers at and naming the hard Brexiteers for the role in the fiasco so far and saying the obvious that no deal will make the ERG happy.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » And a regular GE cycle as per nearly every state on the planet, is the same thing as leaving Europe after many decades, a new Independance of sorts? This year: 2018. Brexit Ref: 2016 Scotish Independence Ref: 2014 In light of current conditions, can only imagine a few Scots are checking their calanders having been presented with a new dynamic, that appears to be a stalemate of sorts for them. The question is would a 2nd Ref right now solve anything, the answer is 'who knows', there is a risk it might further complicate matters.
badtoro wrote: » Just on Scotland, how may they get another indy ref if they wish for one? Are there time limits from the last or other conditions?
Rjd2 wrote: » Today was a good day for them tbf. All this chaos and delay makes a no deal more likely especially as May and Corbyn utterly incompetent. Not a bad effort for what is ultimately a very small number of MPS. EDIT...No deal before 1st Of April is 1/2 on BF now. :eek:
hill16bhoy wrote: » Presumably you view the 2017 General Election as undemocratic given that it took place 2 years and 1 month after the 2015 one. We're already 2 years and 6 months since the referendum - a referendum which you presumably also view as undemocratic given that there had already been one in 1975.
road_high wrote: » And ****e for Irish exporters! Further evidence that we need to diversify move beyond the volatility of the Uk and pound sterling and broaden our own trade horizons
road_high wrote: » So Tessie is off to Holland in the morning for more begging. How likely are the EU chiefs to give them even more concessions?
theguzman wrote: » It is a huge political crisis for the EU because the Franco/German empire is.... the Southern Irish Government here.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » So a GE and referendum on EU membership are the same thing? Ooo..k. The only country to leave the EU, after more than 40yrs, creating such upheaval and debate perhaps would give you the slightest clue as it it's significance, perchance.
devnull wrote: » Theresa May is going to do a tour of European Capitals to try and get them to change their minds. Does she still not get the concept of what the EU is and how it is a union and not just a place where she can go from country to country to try and place pressure on the EU.
hill16bhoy wrote: » I asked you did you view the 2017 UK General Election as undemocratic. I also asked you whether you viewed the 2016 EU membership referendum as undemocratic, given that there had already been one previously. You didn't answer either question.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » I asked you whether you consider both to be of equal comparable status. (I.e. there is no need for anyone to anwser silly non-comparable questions). You didn't answer this question. Which is faster: something going very fast, or something that isn't going slow?
Water John wrote: » Nick Robinson giving Tory Cabinet Minister an easy ride but cutting the Labour contributor, BBC hasn't changed even on this disastrous day.
hill16bhoy wrote: » The only question is whether they were democratic. .
funkey_monkey wrote: » Also, C4 news stated that the cost of NI annually was less that cost of EU membership. I've never heard that one before.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » The hard brexiteers will not be satisfied until they cause themselves and their country deep harm and then of course it will be “Brussels” fault.
MarkHenderson wrote: » Getting so bored of this now. The people have voted for Brexit. Just get on with it. What an absolute disaster May has been.
road_high wrote: » But EU membership is good value as you get huge market access and free trade in return etc etc.With the dead weight that is NI all you get an is a welfare black hole and ungrateful meddling from Arlene and co
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » The Scottish Parliament have already voted to allow the First Minister to request one but the Tories have stated they will not allow to take place (Labour have said the same)
An Claidheamh wrote: » "Southern Irish government?"
