kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
EdgeCase wrote: » There's very little you can do about Irish-bashing Tories. They've always existed and they probably always will. They simply see us as an annoyance or they've a genuine hatred of us. I certainly wouldn't be in any rush to bend over backwards to apologise for our defence of our economic interests or for our right to exist just because it's frustrating a few Tories. In the long run the UK is going to have to start behaving sensibly again. This stuff can only go on so long until the markets start to become wary of political instability and impending chaos. There's been an enormous amount leeway given to the UK to come up with something sensible and I think many investors were genuinely assuming that this period of chaos was just a glitch that would resolve itself. That hasn't been the case.
EdgeCase wrote: » We had no particular reason to look elsewhere. Who knew that the UK would unilaterally destroy its largest and deepest trade agreement. Irish and international retail in Ireland will react to a changed supply situation. Luckily we have a lot of very viable alternatives. The situation in Ireland isn't as complex as the UK as we have all of our market access, except for the UK entirely unchanged. We aren't leaving, the UK is. So other than UK trade we face a temporary logistical issue. In the near medium term that'll be overcome. Business is there to be done and markets are open.
Water John wrote: » Yorkshire Puds and Cornish Pasties, can't think of any thing else.
Water John wrote: » Just to take two products mentioned, cheddar cheese and milk. I we continue to ship these products back and forth with the UK and it has a No Deal Brexit, then the figures put up will happen. But with NDB that is not what will happen. Cheddar cheese is shipped in bulk to the UK and reimported in retail packs. That obviously would stop and thus little or no increase in price. Milk ATM hops across the border with NI. The main supplier in the ROI that ships from NI is Strathroy. But they also take milk from farmers to NI. again that traffic stops. Strathroy then processes its milk in the ROI as it does some already. No increase in the litre of milk. Others doing drinking milk are Aurivo, Arrabawn and Glanbia/Avonmore BTW what is used for baby formula is whey a byproduct of cheese making. Only some processors do this, Dairygold, Carbery, Tipperary and Glanbia.
RobMc59 wrote: » Tea bags and hp sauce?
EdgeCase wrote: » This is seriously mitigated by a government decision a year or so ago to join Beneluxa, a group formed by the Benelux countries and Austria to pool their buying power and cooperate on drugs and medicines supply. See details below:http://www.beneluxa.org It's both Brexit proofing and more importantly it's reducing the cost of drugs to the HSE. We're fully part of it since June 2018.
10000maniacs wrote: » I think this is a great opportunity for local producers to cover more of the Irish market. We have the rainfall, we have the space, we just need to be more innovative. We have been a net importer of food since 2000. This has to change. What's stopping us from growing our own wheat and manufacturing our own breakfast cereals?
blanch152 wrote: » http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/essay/suitable-conditions-required-for-wheat-cultivation-5-conditions/25489 "The weather should be warm and moist during the early stage of growth and sunny and dry in the later stages."http://agropedia.iitk.ac.in/content/climatic-requirement-wheat-temperature " optimum 20-25 "
josip wrote: » Barrys and Chef are Irish producers of tea and brown sauce and will do quite well if tariffs are applied to the Dutch/British tea bags known as Lyons. HP sauce is owned by the Dutch now I think?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce The introduction to this Guardian article in 2015 is still relevant in 2018https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2015/jan/05/-sp-brown-sauce-sales-are-falling-has-britain-finally-come-to-its-senses
RobMc59 wrote: » What may the consequences of a hard brexit mean to Guinness which is owned by diagio?
murphaph wrote: » It's kind of ironic but Brexit might actually do for Ireland what Brexiteers promise it will do for the UK. Ireland might really benefit from increased trade with markets further away, but in continental Europe! Most firms will have been quite happy with the large UK market on their doorstep and it will be a challenge to tap into the massive market beyond that but many firms have done it and there are huge (real) benefits to be had. Ireland is in a good position here. We are an English speaking country so we easily attract the language skills we need to export to continental Europe. It would be much more difficult for say Poland to attract Italians, Spanish, French etc. staff to live in Poland and handle their key accounts in those foreign countries.
listermint wrote: » No, YOU said the irish market is operating inefficiently. I said that the Irish market hasnt gone to European market in largesse due to historical relationships. its YOUR assertion that we cannot get same/similar deals from Continental providers as we do in the UK. YOUR assertion that they are worse deals there. Yours, dont put words in my mouth. See where your argument falls down? This is you "if the continent had the same deals then we would have gone there instead" - Nonsense.
RobMc59 wrote: » What may the consequences of a hard brexit mean to Guinness which is owned by diageo?
funkey_monkey wrote: » https://www-thejournal-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thejournal.ie/brexit-threat-food-shortages-ireland-4381228-Dec2018/?amp=1&_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHCAFYAYABAQ==#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s Ireland is the most stable country in the world in terms of being able to provide food for its population. So, they are prepared to cause another famine to get Brexit! Words fail me.
Sam Russell wrote: » The future for Guinness looks black I'm afraid. All Guinness is now brewed in Dublin (except for Nigerian Guinness, and possibly other small breweries), so there will be no shortage in the foreseeable future. The nitrogen used for draught Guinness might be a problem, but no doubt there will be a solution.
RobMc59 wrote: » Yes,I seen it and it`s impressive.I wondered if a hard brexit would cause problems with Guinness being owned by a British company?
briany wrote: » What's the story with post-Brexit travel? Will British citizens be able to enjoy weekend getaways to Spain just as easily as they do now under the terms of May's deal?
