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molloyjh

That's genuinely hilarious. I had never thought of actually killing 2 birds when using or hearing that phrase before. Now it's exactly what I'm thinking of whenever I hear it. It's been used here before recently I think, but the South Park episode with the bikers springs to mind, where language evolves and the original (and sometimes literal) meaning of words or phrases is consigned to the bin. I mean, how many people have actually used the guinea pig phrase without ever carrying out or even condoning animal testing?

But I suppose seeing as it's becoming the done thing, I'd like to personally make a stand against the phrase "having your cake and eating it too". I mean for starters, who wants a cake without being able to eat it. That seems dumb. But most importantly, that's not even the original phrase. It's "eat your cake and have it too". Which makes far more sense. We need to do away with this anti-sense language once and for all.

Also, it's "at the end of the day" not "in the end of the day".

mfceiling

molloyjh wrote: »

We need to do away with this anti-sense language once and for all.

Also, it's "at the end of the day" not "in the end of the day".

We need to tell these people that if Mars becomes a realistic place to inhabit then they can feel free to head that way.

molloyjh

mfceiling wrote: »

We need to tell these people that if Mars becomes a realistic place to inhabit then they can feel free to head that way.

Neil3030

molloyjh wrote: »

,But I suppose seeing as it's becoming the done thing, I'd like to personally make a stand against the phrase "having your cake and eating it too". I mean for starters, who wants a cake without being able to eat it. That seems dumb. But most importantly, that's not even the original phrase. It's "eat your cake and have it too". Which makes far more sense. We need to do away with this anti-sense language once and for all.

How does changing the order and tense clarify the impossible scenario of both eating and being in possession of cake? Having it and eating it is as impossible as it is to eat it and to have it....

Edit - my suggestion would be to move away from the verb "have" entirely, and use something like "store your cake and eat it"

thomond2006

I'll kill all of you.

*Just a metaphor, chillax!

stephen_n

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Yeah but we're spending all our money on avocado instead of buying houses and diamonds apparently.

Although for .ak that probably is true.

You do know avocados are no longer PC?

Neil3030

stephen_n wrote: »

You do know avocados are no longer PC?

Explain

errlloyd

Neil3030 wrote: »

Explain

To ripen avocados on a mass scale requires taking bees captive and using them to fertilize the avocado. Even though an animal isn't consumed in the process, the requirement of a captive animal in the process makes it not vegan.

Squidgy Black

I've never actually eaten avocado.

errlloyd

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I've never actually eaten avocado.

I hadn't until about a 7 months ago. Now I have about 5 per week. They are good.

Dave_The_Sheep

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I've never actually eaten avocado.

Not even guacamole?

Some life just isn't worth living...

Squidgy Black

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Not even guacamole?

Some life just isn't worth living...

Nope, just never bothered trying it. Might splash out and pay the extra euro on my burrito Friday.

stephen_n

Neil3030 wrote: »

Explain

Something about the amount of water it takes to produce them. The fact the Mexican drug cartels are enslaving the farmers to produce them and controlling the market. Something about air miles yada yada anyway they’re no longer pc or hipster ask Molloy.

Zzippy

Best answer I saw to that PETA nonsense. I had a good chuckle...

https://twitter.com/curates_egg/status/1070237470552457217

[Deleted User]

It's possible Peta are completely self aware about this and go over the top to get people talking. It appears to be working in this instance anyway!

mfceiling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's possible Peta are completely self aware about this and go over the top to get people talking. It appears to be working in this instance anyway!

Don't have a cow Venjur.

molloyjh

Neil3030 wrote: »

How does changing the order and tense clarify the impossible scenario of both eating and being in possession of cake? Having it and eating it is as impossible as it is to eat it and to have it....

Edit - my suggestion would be to move away from the verb "have" entirely, and use something like "store your cake and eat it"

You know when you’ve just finished eating one of your fav foods and wish you had more? Eating your cake and having it too means finishing that food and still having more to eat. Or in other words not paying the price for enjoying yourself.

Dave_The_Sheep

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Nope, just never bothered trying it. Might splash out and pay the extra euro on my burrito Friday.

Nah, not in a burrito. Half a chopped red onion, chopped flesh of tomato or two, a mashed up avocado or two depending on size, juice of half a lime, salt, pepper, into a blender. Not too runny, not too chunky. Season/balance amount of ingredients to taste.

Get some Doritos or your crisp/chip of choice, and dunk. Nom nom.

[Deleted User]

mfceiling wrote: »

Don't have a cow Venjur.

Now you're just splitting hares.

irishbucsfan

errlloyd wrote: »

I hadn't until about a 7 months ago. Now I have about 5 per week. They are good.

THE BOOM IS ****IN BACK LADS! We’re all going to heaven!

[Deleted User]

I'm beginning to wonder if cannabis has been quietly legalised or is no being longer enforced against. Walking through town today it was incredibly prevelant on several occasions. Have noticed it in Stephens green before but this was a whole new level of overtness and there are plenty of Guards around with Christmas shopping in full swing.

Squidgy Black

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder if cannabis has been quietly legalised or is no being longer enforced against. Walking through town today it was incredibly prevelant on several occasions. Have noticed it in Stephens green before but this was a whole new level of overtness and there are plenty of Guards around with Christmas shopping in full swing.

No longer being enforced to the extent that the garda won't bother stopping anyone these days or searching if they catch a whiff of it. If you're openly caught rolling a joint or you're pulled over and there's a really strong smell coming from the car then they might search, but a lot of the time they're just letting people go. They'll still ream you if they don't like the look of you though.

I work in Dublin 1, and generally can't step foot outside the office without getting a bang of green, people openly smoking on the quays on my walk home constantly.

NB: Not my personal experience, just things I've been told. By friends.

mfceiling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder if cannabis has been quietly legalised or is no being longer enforced against. Walking through town today it was incredibly prevelant on several occasions. Have noticed it in Stephens green before but this was a whole new level of overtness and there are plenty of Guards around with Christmas shopping in full swing.

I stopped in my local topaz this afternoon and the guy in front of me was stinking off it. He had filled up his van and held the door open for me as I followed him in. Probably not the best poison to be putting into your body when you're driving. And you're definitely right....the bang of it around town is unreal at times.

thegreycity

Neil3030 wrote: »

How does changing the order and tense clarify the impossible scenario of both eating and being in possession of cake? Having it and eating it is as impossible as it is to eat it and to have it....

Edit - my suggestion would be to move away from the verb "have" entirely, and use something like "store your cake and eat it"

Because it's possible to have a cake and then to eat, but it's not possible to eat a cake and then to still have it. The order of the words implies the chronological order of events.

pickarooney

molloyjh wrote: »

You know when you’ve just finished eating one of your fav foods and wish you had more? Eating your cake and having it too means finishing that food and still having more to eat. Or in other words not paying the price for enjoying yourself.

That's... not what it means. Neil is right.
There's no implied chronological order; it's a simultaneous state of being. Schroedinger's cake.

As opposed to Pavlov's pavlova

Squidgy Black

mfceiling wrote: »

I stopped in my local topaz this afternoon and the guy in front of me was stinking off it. He had filled up his van and held the door open for me as I followed him in. Probably not the best poison to be putting into your body when you're driving. And you're definitely right....the bang of it around town is unreal at times.

That pisses me off. It's DUI, I don't see how people who smoke and drive find it acceptable.

[Deleted User]

Squidgy Black wrote: »

No longer being enforced to the extent that the garda won't bother stopping anyone these days or searching if they catch a whiff of it. If you're openly caught rolling a joint or you're pulled over and there's a really strong smell coming from the car then they might search, but a lot of the time they're just letting people go. They'll still ream you if they don't like the look of you though.

I work in Dublin 1, and generally can't step foot outside the office without getting a bang of green, people openly smoking on the quays on my walk home constantly.

NB: Not my personal experience, just things I've been told. By friends.

I was really taken aback by how out in the open it was and it wasn't just groups of kids at central bank (is that still a thing) or Stephens green - there was an chap in his 50s who looked fairly respectable and the smell of what he was smoking was unmistakable.

I've no issue with it at all, part of me thinks though that like Alcohol it would be better not entirely out on the street. It's probably moving towards legal but you wouldn't want to see people falling around in public either.

mfceiling wrote: »

I stopped in my local topaz this afternoon and the guy in front of me was stinking off it. He had filled up his van and held the door open for me as I followed him in. Probably not the best poison to be putting into your body when you're driving. And you're definitely right....the bang of it around town is unreal at times.

That's no different to drink driving and needs to be considered as socially unacceptable if it isn't already.

Synode

thegreycity wrote: »

Because it's possible to have a cake and then to eat, but it's not possible to eat a cake and then to still have it. The order of the words implies the chronological order of events.

The saying is have your cake and eat it. Not have your cake then eat it

irishbucsfan

I believe you can have and eat as many cakes as you want because I am sound