Trigger Happy wrote: » Should I pull my kids out is school to avoid getting labeled a part time parent?
cloudy90210 wrote: » those days were class tbf. the wimminz at home makin the dinner for you and absolutely gaggin for some action after being alone the whole day
cloudy90210 wrote: » whats that pre-tell me
gormdubhgorm wrote: » If it bothers you yes, if not no. That is just what I view two working parents as with a child/children who works to pay the childminder. I know it is not an unpopular thing to say. Yeah the standard of living is better. But the parents are exhausted and they have to make 'quality time' at the weekend. If people are happy with that grand. I doubt the majority of travellers would be since they value thier family above all else (with exceptions like any other group of course)
gormdubhgorm wrote: » But there are positives in traveller culture as well.
Strawberry Milkshake wrote: » Had to keep all those DURTY housewives windows polished up before dinner time. But couldn’t start work till the milk man had come.
KrustyUCC wrote: » Basically in the past when a woman married she had to leavehttps://www.thejournal.ie/giving-up-work-when-married-1852776-Dec2014/
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Basically when a woman got married she gave up her job. It applied in the civil service, the banks and other places.
lawred2 wrote: » once married, many women had to leave government, civil and public service positions I'm sure many private organisations followed suit think it wasn't fully lifted until the seventies the halcyon days where gormdumbgorm is concerned
Deebles McBeebles wrote: » Not sure how long you've been here Gwen but you'll soon see this country is very slow to catch up in a lot of ways.
Gwen Cooper wrote: » 8.5 years now, most of my adult life really, I came here from Eastern Europe right after I finished school. Some things are appalling - divorces not legal until 1996, you still have to be separated for god-knows-how-many years in order to get a divorce, now the marriage ban. And don't even get me started on the waiting times in healthcare. Came to A&E one night and was told that I'm lucky and the waiting time is only 6 hours tonight. Or that time when there was something wrong with my brain and I needed a scan to rule out a tumour and they told me that I can either wait 18 months or go private. EDIT: AND THE 8TH AMENDMENT OMFG
Gwen Cooper wrote: Some things are appalling - divorces not legal until 1996, you still have to be separated for god-knows-how-many years in order to get a divorce, now the marriage ban. And don't even get me started on the waiting times in healthcare. Came to A&E one night and was told that I'm lucky and the waiting time is only 6 hours tonight. Or that time when there was something wrong with my brain and I needed a scan to rule out a tumour and they told me that I can either wait 18 months or go private.
Gwen Cooper wrote: » EDIT: AND THE 8TH AMENDMENT OMFG
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » To be fair, given the history of Eastern Europe in the twentieth century, most things that happened in Ireland were relatively mild by comparison.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Surely wherever you came from is more appalling than here, just an observation before you take a different meaning.
Deebles McBeebles wrote: » Don't forget contraception was only legalised in 1980 and you couldn't get legally buy a bloody Playboy til 1995.
Gravelly wrote: » Oh we got them alright :P
Deebles McBeebles wrote: I don't think its a comparison lads. I brought up Ireland being backward in some ways and Gwen pointed out a few.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » A 'stay a home mother' in general society is a phrase well used now. But I have never heard the phrase stay at home traveller mother:D Because, That might actually be giving travellers some praise!?
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I'll be honest here, slating a country you willing choose to emigrate too is a bit bizarre in my opinion. I travel to Eastern Europe on a regular basis. Every country has a past that leaves alot to be desired Ireland is no different.
lawred2 wrote: » legacy issues take time to unwind, especially where changing the constitution is concerned - quite clearly today's Ireland is a long way apart from the Ireland that constituted such provisions... either way I wouldn't get too worked up about if I were you the marriage ban was lifted nearly half a century ago divorce was introduced 22 years ago the abortion thing took too long but clearly that vote could and shoud have been had much sooner than it was don't forget Ireland was the first country to have a successful popular vote on same sex marriage so it's clearly not the socially backward kip it once was
lawred2 wrote: » ok you're boring
Deebles McBeebles wrote: Racism is still rife there for example, absolutely. I wouldn't take offence to someone pointing out the issues they have found here though.
Gwen Cooper wrote: » See it's complicated. Back there I couldn't stand the people. The iron curtain might have fallen, but the mentality is still there. People don't trust each other. They don't look out for each other. Everyone has their secrets and god forbid if someone hears you talking about them. I always struggled to connect with the people there. On the other side, they have free healthcare without any waiting times, you usually see the specialist you need on the same day or the next day. They don't have to get their kids baptized to make sure that they will get to a school nearby. Religion is pretty much non-existent there. Divorce? Grand, sign these papers, done (well not as easy but it's basically just paperwork). Women can choose what to do with their bodies. I was 21 when I came here "just for a few months" but I really connected with the people here, I immediately felt like I'm home, that this is where I'm supposed to be. So I stayed. I wouldn't be able to go back to my home country now - I only worked there for about 9 months in 2009, have no friends there, no future really. The only reason why I'm coming back is my family. And I get extremely anxious after a few days. The people just have a different vibe there and I can't take it.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » While because I am not playing to your narrative. Because you find a group think and general traveller bashing is much for fun? One wagon of a despicable individual it gives people a licence to brand them all. Yet when I point out a major flaw in the non-traveller community - (part-time parents) there is uproar! There is one thing you cannot accuse this wagon of is being a part-time parent. She may be misguided/uneducated etc but she will see/has seen her children growing up in their formative years. It will not be one of those who looks at the pictures and cards the child has created while in the childminders. Where the parent only has second-hand news of how thier child has got on.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Also I nearly forgot the working parents educate thier children which is great. Travellers should also educate thier children by the way. But it also cannot be ignored that many working parents treat thier educators as handy childminders while they are at work. Once the there are holidays for the kids there are the usual gripes about teachers etc. The kids are hindrance to them. The working parents want either state education / childminding to do the majority of thier parenting for them. As that is what the parents have become accustomed too. This is in contrast to the travellers who are there for thier own kids. A 'stay a home mother' in general society is a phrase well used now. But I have never heard the phrase stay at home traveller mother:D Because, That might actually be giving travellers some praise!?
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