gormdubhgorm wrote: » I thought this thread did not like whataboutery? I just pointed out positive aspects of traveller culture. But it does not fit the whataboutery agenda when it suits others to do so.
cloudy90210 wrote: » Can she stop having so many kids?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what about treating older people not in the traveling community with respect instead of putting them in fear of their life while robbing them?
gormdubhgorm wrote: » In fairness there are a few things the settled community could learn from the traveller community.1) The family unit comes first - and is it is even stronger bond as it is not 'manufactured' 2) The large family unit looks after its own - through thick and thin 3) The older people in the traveller community are treated with respect. All old values which I feel are slowly dying for the sake of 'modern Ireland' and so called 'progress'. People seem to forget the positive points in the rest of the noise.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » In fairness there are a few things the settled community could learn from the traveller community. 1) The family unit comes first - and is it is even stronger bond as it is not 'manufactured' 2) The large family unit looks after its own - through thick and thin 3) The older people in the traveller community are treated with respect. All old values which I feel are slowly dying for the sake of 'modern Ireland' and so called 'progress'. People seem to forget the positive points in the rest of the noise.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » In fairness there are a few things the settled community could learn from the traveller community. 1) The family unit comes first - and is it is even stronger bond as it is not 'manufactured' 2) The large family unit looks after its own - through thick and thin3) The older people in the traveller community are treated with respect. All old values which I feel are slowly dying for the sake of 'modern Ireland' and so called 'progress'. People seem to forget the positive points in the rest of the noise.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » In fairness there are a few things the settled community could learn from the traveller community. 1) The family unit comes first - and is it is even stronger bond as it is not 'manufactured' 2) The large family unit looks after its own - through thick and thin 3) The older people in the traveller community are treated with respect. All old values which I feel are slowly dying for the sake of 'modern Ireland' and so called 'progress'.
blanch152 wrote: » 100% agree with this. Have been banging this drum from the start in relation to Traveller culture. Leadership is needed from the likes of Pavee Point on this issue. It is like addiction therapy, the patient has to admit to the problem before it can be cured successfully. Until the problems of Traveller culture are fully accepted and outed by the leadership of the Travelling community, and their supporters, the problem will not go away. It is not just pressure on the 14 and 15-year old girls to marry, there is pressure on the young adult men to settle down with them in hetrosexual relationships, no matter what sexual orientation they have, and no matter how mature and ready they are for marriage. It is a form of institutionalised child abuse.
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » Any culture that tries to turn girls into illiterate child brides and baby-making machines has no place in Ireland in 2018. That's would be the genuinely progressive stance to take here, as opposed to shouting "racism" every time anyone criticizes Traveller culture.
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » Honestly, the more I read about her, the more I actually feel sorry for her. Raised by an aunt in a caravan, taken out of school at 12, involved with a 19-year-old when she was 14, married at 15, pregnant at 16. Yes, she has made a lot of bad choices and stupid decisions, but she never had much of a chance in life, given the culture in which she was raised. The state should be trying to put an end to this culture, but instead we have politicians falling all over themselves about its "unique traditions." Any culture that tries to turn girls into illiterate child brides and baby-making machines has no place in Ireland in 2018. That's would be the genuinely progressive stance to take here, as opposed to shouting "racism" every time anyone criticizes Traveller culture.
Henry Ford III wrote: » Displaying truly admirable restraint.
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » ...In the Facebook post above, she says that she had been with her husband for 14 years. She's 28 at present and he's 33, so that would suggest she was going out with him when she was 14 and he was 19.
goose2005 wrote: » she must have been at least 16, which was legal in NI up until recently
"I got married at 15," she said. "That's when I had my own family then. [As a child] my aunty fostered me and I class her kids as my own brothers and sisters.
Ms Cash says she was 15 when she got married and spent her childhood being raised by her aunt in caravans.
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Yea, I reckon the dog is dead at this stage. No sound of barking. The cop looks to be trying to defend the chap in the van from the gentleman. Why anyone would grab the tie of a cop holding a gun is beyond me.
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » Throughout this thread folk have implied it's the Catholic religion is responsible for how she behaves.
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » If that's all you've said, then certainly not. Throughout this thread folk have implied it's the Catholic religion is responsible for how she behaves. Without trolling through 100+ pages of sh1t. If you weren't one then fine. Going by what you've said above we should be in agreement
Edgware wrote: » Is marrying your 16 year old cousin paedophilia?
gwalk wrote: » so culture excuses paedophilia?
Church on Tuesday wrote: » We're talking about certain aspects of traveler culture here, not prison :rolleyes:
pistolpetes11 wrote: » Sounds like the guard says to get him off me before the shot ? Could be the dog ? Maybe the Gentleman seen trying to hit the man in the van ? Either way the guard has drawn his gun as he deemed it nessecery In the situation , the last thing most sane law abiding people would try to do is grab the armed guard by the tie as he may feel you are trying to pull him to the ground , this could lead to him being disarmed and in fear for his life, he could discharge his weapon. Maybe it was the dog ? That would seem the most logical thing because surely most folks wouldn’t feel they are above the law and feel no need to follow the guards instructions
tuxy wrote: » Yes that was where the garda's tie was grabbed. The dog was killed before this incident.
tuxy wrote: » Is there a video of the incident with the dog? Shooting someone in the foot does seem a bit excessive for having his tie grabbed.
