tuxy wrote: » IMO most counties are nicer to live in than Dublin. The only problem with these counties is lack of jobs but that's another bonus for Cash!
Amirani wrote: » Having 7 kids in a developed world country is never responsible.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » This was nearly 50 years ago. Things were different. The generation before that would be lucky to have 2 bedrooms. My father was also not dependent on the state to feed and clothe us.
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » Miriam O'Callaghan has eight children.
B00MSTICK wrote: » To follow on from this in a completely different (and less humorous) way Remember Martin Ward, the traveller that was on RTE's "The Cutting Edge"? He's gay and a LGBTQ+ activist and was given praise for appearing on the show with many saying he would be a great spokesman for Travellers etc. The thing is, Martin Warde is pretty much the needle in the Traveller haystack: 1. Education 57% of male and 54% of females travellers don't progress past primary school. ~8% go on to do the leaving cert. Martin is one of the ~1% that will get a 3rd level education. This is the single biggest issue IMO. 2. Employment ~80% of Traveller's are unemployed. Given the change in the times (being a tinker is no longer a viable career) and the rise of skilled jobs, this is clearly linked to education. I believe after finishing the leaving cert Martin traveled to the UK where he gained extensive bar-management experience. I imagine he came back to Ireland to study. I'm under no illusion he'd find it harder to get a job here because of his name and the discrimination it brings with it. 3. Nomadic (or not) The title of the Irish times piece is just this "I am a Traveller who does not travel" As mentioned above I doubt he lived in a caravan or travelled around much while he was working in England and am pretty sure he doesn't now that he is in NUIG. I also get the feeling his parents weren't quite so nomadic if he managed to complete the junior and leaving cert. 4. Family/Environment From what I can tell Martin has no family of his own as of yet, he isnt married either AFAIK. Almost a third of Irish travellers in the 15-29 age group are married compared to ~6% in the settled community. More than 1 in 4 Irish Traveller households had 6 or more persons. 5. Religion/SexualityNot sure which (if any) religions Martin believes in but the majority of Travellers would be staunch Catholics. I can't imagine being gay in the travelling community is a barrel of laugh so fair play to Martin on that count and continuing to build acceptance. I'm hoping his parents are open/accepting of it too and he has a good relationship with them. 6. Horses/Animals (none?) While Martin was working in the UK or now that he is in college I doubt he had any equine pals around. 7. Other Unfortunately many travellers are involved in crime, yet he doesn't seem to have gone down that path. He doesn't drink much. He doesn't post call out videos. He doesn't even sound like the majority of travellers I've spoken with or heard speaking. If he had a different surname he probably wouldn't be discriminated against anymore than a settled person. Taking all this into account - he's doesn't really fit into the traveller stereotype at all. He is essentially a traveller that does not follow their typical traits or "traveller culture" If we had a few generations of Travellers like him would we see as much discrimination at all?
Raheem Euro wrote: » A poor dog was shot this evening in an incident in Longford involving the ethnic group. Cop shot the dog.
Fann Linn wrote: » But less of a bonus for the locals!
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » I think that so far I've been very fair, or against Traveller culture. But throughout this thread I've seen this sectarian anti Catholic crap crop up several times. Me and my wife are regular mass goers. We live our lives responsibly and without demanding hand outs. I'm settled and take my religion seriously. I pay my own way.
Strawberry Milkshake wrote: » There’s a video on the Longford leaders Facebook page. Scroll down 2 or 3 news stories/death notices and you’ll see it. Is this today’s shooting?
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » TBF. I dont think that was very bigoted. Its a fact. They're big into the Catholicism
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » And the point is what exactly? That Catholicism is the reason Margaret Cash is a sponger? Its ridiculous.
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » More the hypocrisy of staunch Catholics making a living from fraud and theft?
[Deleted User] wrote: » the point is very clearly related to his being openly gay, which catholic cultureand norms doesnt exactly make any easier.
[Deleted User] wrote: » lol what a bizzarre tangent
Church on Tuesday wrote: » Even if the parents are decent hard working people who can feed and clothe all seven?
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » It's another thread for another day. Suffice to say those of us who live outside of the Dublin-centric libzani zone hold our religion dear and don't need it dragged through the gutter. As bad as Cash is I've yet to see her drag religion into this
ohnonotgmail wrote: » i'm still trying to figure out how she managed to carry €300 worth of stuff from Penneys. She should get herself a job as a brickies labourer.
Demonique wrote: » So you continue to adhere to a religion where paedophilia was covered up? Fecking lol
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » Utter b*ll****. I've lived my life a Catholic as do many more. No Catholic I know goes on with that crap. I don't remember seeing a Traveller at mass either. Stop trying to cloak your sectarianism over something else
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » Must be a pretty sad existence being under 30 and having spent your life being oppressed by the Catholic Church 😴
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Sectarianism? Ah heor
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » I drifted away from my religion through the last few years. Bigots like you who blame all of us for the actions of a minority are the reason I proposed to my wife, got married and went back to going to mass once (or more) times a week. I'm not going to be told by some knuckledragging anti Catholic racist (of which many have contributed to this thread) how I should live my life. Anyway. There's a chemist nearby selling blue hair dye on discount you might be interested in.
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » We've a thread here about a degenerate sponger who as far as I'm aware has never mentioned her religion. Yet several posters have brought her religious ideas (?) into it. Ya it's not sectarian in any way 😂
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