kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
RobMc59 wrote: » https://www.irishnews.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/2017/09/20/news/ireland-should-be-reunited-by-rejoining-the-united-kingdom-1140831/ I hope the link works.(please excuse my limited internet skills!)
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Unlikely NI will have any of the Irish MEPs next year:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-citizens-in-north-unlikely-to-have-vote-in-european-elections-1.3717747
VinLieger wrote: » That's not an article its a letter from a "reader" with very dubious conclusions based of quite a blatant hardcore unionist bias
UsedToWait wrote: » Troll. "The Republic itself is a failed ex-colonial state which has driven out many generations of people to find work in other countries, while looking after an old shop who hand down their jobs to sons and daughters through tight connections in precluded interview processes"
RobMc59 wrote: » Apologies-I thought it was an article and didn't realise it was a letter.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » But did you not realise it was a bit nonsensical?
MrMusician18 wrote: » UsedToWait wrote: » Troll. "The Republic itself is a failed ex-colonial state which has driven out many generations of people to find work in other countries, while looking after an old shop who hand down their jobs to sons and daughters through tight connections in precluded interview processes" Is that the same Maurice Fitzgerald that got 30 votes in the 2007 general for Cork South Central?
VinLieger wrote: » Classic example of confirmation bias
bamayang wrote: » Probably off topic, but could someone recommend a couple of good pro-brexiteers on Twitter to follow? Over time my following has fallen towards remain people and I often wonder am I in an echo chamber of 'lets laugh at those brexiteer ejits'. Will try have a listen to the podcasts mentioned above, but if anyone could recommend a couple of good twitterers, I would appreciate it.
Calina wrote: » The UK does not do joint sovereignty. No one watching the current events should be naive enough to trust them until devolution for England happens and proportional representation is implemented. Not a good idea.
briany wrote: » You must figure that No Brexit is the outcome Nigel Farage secretly wants because it would enable his party to take so much of the Brexit vote that he could find his party doing an electoral performance similar to the Lib Dems in 2010, and going into coalition government.
RobMc59 wrote: » More a classic example of a genuine mistake,which I suppose you would never make..
funkey_monkey wrote: » https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46419790 Wasn't this the whole point of it so that one side could not shirk their responsibilities? I understood there was to be an independent committee set up to arbitrate on when this could happen. Why are they acting so surprised at this declaration from the AG?
It will the irony of all ironies that a united Ireland may come about in bringing the Republic back into the United Kingdom and ending partition that way, and not by the Republic annexing Northern Ireland?
CelticRambler wrote: » Can you annex part of your territory that has already been annexed by a foreign power? Whoever the writer is, he hasn't been following the shifting demographics and attitude in NI. As things stand at the moment, with a disorderly Brexit firmly on the horizon, a non-military reunification of Ireland is closer than it's been since 1922.
RobMc59 wrote: » I thought it a non starter in this form but the idea of a unified Ireland under the joint control of ireland and the UK is possibly a good idea.
CelticRambler wrote: » RobMc59 wrote: » https://www.irishnews.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/2017/09/20/news/ireland-should-be-reunited-by-rejoining-the-united-kingdom-1140831/ I hope the link works.(please excuse my limited internet skills!) It will the irony of all ironies that a united Ireland may come about in bringing the Republic back into the United Kingdom and ending partition that way, and not by the Republic annexing Northern Ireland? Can you annex part of your territory that has already been annexed by a foreign power? Whoever the writer is, he hasn't been following the shifting demographics and attitude in NI. As things stand at the moment, with a disorderly Brexit firmly on the horizon, a non-military reunification of Ireland is closer than it's been since 1922.
VinLieger wrote: » A mistake made due to confirmation bias, everyone is guilty of it now and then, i dont know what your problem is.
First Up wrote: » ... trying to cajole, humour or placate a million disaffected unionists ...
funkey_monkey wrote: » https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46419790 The UK will not be able to "unilaterally" quit the EU's customs rules under the Irish backstop, the UK's chief law officer has said. Wasn't this the whole point of it so that one side could not shirk their responsibilities? I understood there was to be an independent committee set up to arbitrate on when this could happen. Why are they acting so surprised at this declaration from the AG?
The UK will not be able to "unilaterally" quit the EU's customs rules under the Irish backstop, the UK's chief law officer has said.
funkey_monkey wrote: » That's one man with a lot of power. That would be a very dodgy reason for refusing to release. As the AG is a member of the Tory party, which taints his impartiality, can this information be forcefully released to parliament.
blanch152 wrote: » A bit ironic to see Sinn Fein criticising the lack of representation in Stratsbourg seeing as they are responsible for the lack of representation in Stormont and Westminister.
CelticRambler wrote: » :eek: Why? - The Republic is a stable prosperous nation with significant global influence; - Britain is a political mess with no idea of where it is in the world, and with a proven record of the English trampling over the best interests of the other constituent nations of the UK; - NI is a basket case, with no effective governance. What possible advantage would there be to the RoI in sacrificing it's freedom in favour of "joint control" ...?
"There is no reason why we have to change our border arrangements in the event of a Brexit, because they've been broadly consistent in the 100 years since the creation of Ireland as a separate state."
