Mountainsandh wrote: » That makes sense. The Averys know well nobody liked them around the area. How does that show malicious intent ? When I've someone calling up to my place to, I don't know, deliver a parcel, fix something... I like to know what time exactly they'll be coming. The towel thing Kratz says himself in his book that SA was coming out of the kiddies pool at the back. All of a sudden it's a lot less sleazy. Plus, sleazy does not a murderer make. Look at Kratz sure.
runningbuddy wrote: » SA blocked his number when calling Teresa Halback. Why on earth would he do this? Yet, when he called her later that afternoon to "get her to return to the site" he did not unblock her number.
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » To try and prove she left his property.
runningbuddy wrote: » Exactly. TH went to the property assuming she was meeting "Barb". Not SA.
Commanchie wrote: » But why when SA rang her her phone pinged 800 foot from scott & Bobby OFF the Avery site
8-10 wrote: » This is why a new trial wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. Cell phone tower science isn't as exact as people think so State should be able to argue it with an expert. But again the original defence didn't bring up the theory that she left the property strongly enough and to me it does seem like there's evidence that she did that is worth talking about
Commanchie wrote: » Sure bobby admitted lying said he seen her off site. Its a cluster**** of a case.
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » SA got Teresa out there on false pretenses, that can’t be argued.
jv2000 wrote: » This aspect of the case really fascinates me. It really does work towards highlighting the theory that TH was being harassed by SA. What I still cannot understand however is this; if she was so creeped out by him then why did she agree to go to the property to meet Barb who was at the time a next door neighbour? Surely she knew the chances of meeting SA were high especially since he had called her several times that day using a hidden number. This for me does call into question just how intimidated she felt by SA.
runningbuddy wrote: » She probably felt more secure knowing Barb was there. Although, IMO, she is as shady AF :rolleyes:. Speaking as a woman, I would def feel safer knowing another woman there. (even if it was a Dassey female !)
Uncharted wrote: » A bite from a female snake is still venomous.
runningbuddy wrote: » LOL, true but it is always comforting having another woman around (speaking as one!). Off point but is Bobby Dassey intellectually challenged like Brendan??
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » I’m fascinated about this part too. She was afraid of Avery but he was crafty enough to leave his sisters details. Teresa might have been a bit apprehensive but because she was meeting a woman she probably felt safe. Most of Avery’s immediate family look like decent people judging by the documentary.
Uncharted wrote: » I don't know that for sure,but I don't believe any of the Avery family will be shortlisted for a Pulitzer anytime soon. I think physical labour in the yard is their primary schooling. Harsh I know,but there ya go.
Commanchie wrote: » Really? Did anybody follow this case or is everyone just taking whats in the doc. TH knew she was seeing SA she said as much to autotrader that Steve had spoke to her that morning regarding the hustle shot from week before.
runningbuddy wrote: » TH assumed she was meeting Barb. Not SA. TH left a voicemail for Barb confirming she'd be there after 2pm.
Wombatman wrote: » How much similarity is Stephen's and Bobby's DNA given they are close relations? Nirider was brutal at the en banc hearing, floundering while the states attorney nailed every issue or question thrown at him. She really let Brendan down considering it was a 4 to 3 split in the end. Looked like a complete, overly academic, armature. KZ practically says as much when suggesting how it should have been handled.
Uncharted wrote: » Agreed. Nirider was utterly out of her depth.
extra gravy wrote: » I thought it was noticeable that the judges kept interrupting her when she trying to make a point but didn't do that with the state solicitor. Thought it was a bit ignorant tbh and could have affected her. The state solicitor was very impressive though.
