gmisk wrote: » I honestly think he is guilty as sin, but it is clear the evidence was manipulated to get a conviction.
gmisk wrote: » TBH I watched episode 1 of series 2....it just felt.....tasteless, the body being thrown in the car....nope I am done. Series one skated over a lot of things that would paint Avery in a bad light (he asked for Halbach to come out and photograph the cars (she had previously called there - he had greeted her in a towel and "creeped" her out, he did this under a fake name...) he also called her directly on her mobile (using *67 to block his number)...weird, Avery was also physically abusive to his former wife and his fiancee, he has been accused of rape on two previous occasions. I honestly think he is guilty as sin, but it is clear the evidence was manipulated to get a conviction.
walshb wrote: » This is it...... We are meant to believe that all this incriminating happenings are just one big coincidence, and that she then happened to be butchered by someone other than Avery? It's preposterous to think that the "stars" aligned like this to convict an innocent man.....
Commanchie wrote: » Read the entire post you just quoted.
walshb wrote: » Not with you, pal! Help me out, please! Sorry, I am with you.......I know.... Anyway, I was more agreeing with the guilty as sin. I'll keep watching.
Commanchie wrote: » Thats fine you agree with Guilty as sin, Nobody is knocking that what I am knocking is the denial of due process.
walshb wrote: » I have no issue with agreeing with issues concerning the whole affair and trial. I get all that. I do not get the whole "he is innocent," as in he did not commit the crime. He did. How they convicted him can be debated all day.
walshb wrote: » Look, if Avery came out and admitted to the killing you would still have people arguing about how he was convicted.. Does the end justify the means? Well, if it was my loved one butchered like that, damn right the ends justify the means.. Anyway, as it stands the authorities are satisfied that justice was served fairly, and this documentary in all its bias has not changed that view.
Uncharted wrote: » Bobby Dassey has a lot of questions to answer imo.
Maxpfizer wrote: » Something they didn't make clear in the documentary was the actual legality of the searches he had made and the legality of any content found on his computer. Have the police actually looked at his computer and seen some awful, and illegal, stuff but decided to never arrest and prosecute him over that? It just seemed like they found all this stuff and just ignored it because he was their "star witness". Wouldn't they be obligated to arrest and charge him anyway? Who knows what he's been involved in since 2005. Wouldn't someone like this be a person the authorities would want to look into?
Commanchie wrote: » There was child porn images, A search for T Halbach, T Galbach (on the day she visited) and then videos of women raped and murdered. Before and after her murder
Maxpfizer wrote: » So that essentially means that the police found these images on his computer and decided "we need to cover that up". I'm not saying that any of these things mean that Bobby Dassey did it. For the cops to see this kind of stuff and deliberately look the other way is a massive scandal in itself. Who knows how much more of this stuff Bobby Dassey has potentially acquired and shared since 2005. A very disturbing aspect of this is the question of where Brendan came up with some of the imagery in his confession if it can be considered to be false. We know for sure some of the things that were being searched for and some of the images that were being viewed in their home around that time. It's not inconceivable that Brendan had seen some of these images. Weird coincidence that Brendans brother is searching for all of this stuff in the weeks and days surrounding the time when Brendan is supposedly witnessing similar in real life. It's WAY too suspicious.
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » Well I just watched Season 2 Ep1. First things first, Kathleen Zellner looks like Michael Jackson and it’s freaking me out. Second there was nothing in that episode to shake my belief Avery is 100% guilty. I still believe Avery murdered Teresa and coerced Brendan Dassey in helping him clean up the crime scene. I don’t believe Dassey raped or murdered Teresa. I felt genuine hatred anytime Avery was talking but a lot of pity for Dassey.
Potential Underachiever wrote: » Just about to re-watch the scene when Barb, Tadych and Avery are on a 3 way call and it gets extremely heated, I haven't noticed much chat on here about it, anyone got any opinions? I'll check back in later
retro:electro wrote: » My first impression was Jesus maybe Brendan is better off away from these people. But listening again I thought Steven was really composed and rational. Barb lying about having internet connection was curious, I get the impression she’d lie for them all. Scott showed his true self. He seems to have a lot of anger under the surface. It was interesting that Barb’s response was “he was with me all day!” not “he would never do such a thing” when Steven queried whether or not Scott could be involved.
Potential Underachiever wrote: » Having trouble locating it, anyone know off hand what episode it is?
Commanchie wrote: » Part 2 EP 1 or 2
Potential Underachiever wrote: » It's actually episode 10 season 2. Interesting call alright, definitely shows Tadych can't stand Avery, also admissions made that Halbach was seen leaving the property by Bobby Dassey contrary to what he said in court.
mad m wrote: » Ok its gone to the high court, they are saying that’s the last chance saloon. Where else can the lawyers go with it?
