BBFAN wrote: » I thought this thread was about mens rights? All that seems to be in here is articles or tweets about women?
BAI upholds in part complaint against 2FM Eoghan McDermott Show for asking Dee Forbes who she would like to kick in testicles
A complaint against the Eoghan McDermott Show on 2FM has been upheld in part by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland. A listener complained about a segment featured on McDermott’s afternoon entertainment show on March 8, 2018 in which the presenter asked the Director General of RTE, Dee Forbes, who she would like to kick in the testicles. According to the BAI, the listener found the comment “offensive and discriminatory towards men and was of the view that it promoted violence against men” and he felt that it was “insensitive and unjustified”.
Eric Cartman wrote: » There are some big tech companies now giving women engineers and sales staff free management / project lead training in the background so when a promotion comes up , they're automatically the best candidate above any man who may have paid for similar on their own. Diversity by force it seems.
Calhoun wrote: » So what, if women are so weak they need the extra help then let them have it. Most men should know that the world is a harsh place that will kick you and keep you down. The only person you can trust to look after your business is yourself.
givyjoe wrote: » Shouldn't that logic/advice be given to women instead of this tokenism/discrimination.
silverharp wrote: » No link but caught a piece on the UK news about a council strike because of gender “equal pay”, so here is me thinking I thought it was illegal for there not to be equal pay. So it turns out they are comparing Bin”men” to cleaners where bin”men” get a couple of quid more per hour and they want this equalised Relative to the Tesco situation , there would seem to be imo more of a disparity between the 2 jobs here, one is primarily an indoor job while the other is an outdoor job, or even with equipment one involves moving about heavy loads, dealing with traffic and other hazards etc. I’d expect the outdoor job to pay a premium. Im not sure if the unions even believe their arguments and are just using “equality” to extract more cash which is a no lose situation for them. However in the broader context if every gender oriented job was treated this way then it would mean a devaluing of hard work that only men apparently want to do? It could ironically also mean that more men in this case will go after council cleaning jobs. So what next? childcare workers should be paid the same as prison officers?
Hector Savage wrote: » More of this "positive discrimination" PC bull****https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-45987987/linda-liukas-hello-ruby-and-the-magic-of-coding So just for girls. Christ, can you imagine if it were reversed ...
gizmo555 wrote: » As a male IT professional, I think its good. It's not discriminating against boys, its encouraging more girls to consider the profession, which has a shortage of people generally. So this is not creating opportunities for girls by taking them from boys. She has set up a group for girls, but on the video you can also clearly see boys participating in her other activities.
Calhoun wrote: » Let's setup something and promote it for all? Or is that crazy talk. No one is saying women are taking opportunity for boys but it's just another constant drone about getting the women into stem.
gizmo555 wrote: » Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who want's to highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her. This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.
silverharp wrote: » does everything have to be gender though, why not class and family background?
gizmo555 wrote: » Why not indeed. If you want to personally encourage more people into STEM based on their class and family background, go for it. But I see no reason to criticise this woman for what she personally chose to do to encourage girls (and boys!) to try coding. On the contrary.
gizmo555 wrote: » Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who wants to personally highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her. This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.
Calhoun wrote: » So would you be in favor of gender quotas in IT organizations? Is that the next step in this line of thinking?
Hector Savage wrote: » Irony is feminists want equality and that type of **** above isn't equality.
Calhoun wrote: » So would you be in favor of gender quotas in IT organizations? Is that the next step in this line of thinking? I suppose my thinking on this is probably a bit skewed do to the current Irish media presence we are seeing allot of the girls being pushed to the front which is all well and good but some balance at times would be great. Saw a coder dojo article in papers a few days ago and was mainly focused on girls there.
professore wrote: » Society also needs more nurses, in fact there is a chronic shortage. Why is there no similar programme to get men into nursing?
professore wrote: » Funnily enough I took my daughter who was about 14 at the time and her friend who was about 12 to a coder dojo and it was ridiculous how they were ignored except for one organiser who kept saying stuff like "you can make the web page girly pink". Painful....
gizmo555 wrote: » What you're describing there is quotas, which I've already said I disagree with.
